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[Chris Nero] 18:03:59

Do we appreciate Jason? I think so.

[Chris Nero] 18:04:00

Everybody's frozen.

[Chris Nero] 18:04:04

pick your little water bottle. Oh, there we go.

[Chris Nero] 18:04:06

Hey guys!

[james] 18:04:08

Hey, Chris.

[Chris Nero] 18:04:10

How's everyone?

[damone johnson] 18:04:11

I don't know how to…

[damone johnson] 18:04:12

Good.

[luke ] 18:04:13

Doing good, Chris.

[Chris Nero] 18:04:15

Hey, Luke.

[Chris Nero] 18:04:18

Nicole, Reyna…

[Chris Nero] 18:04:20

Jason, aka John?

[Nicole Pacheco] 18:04:21

Hey there, Chris.

[Chris Nero] 18:04:24

I'm still working on your, your, your, uh…

[Chris Nero] 18:04:27

I'm gonna be, uh, doing something with, uh, Kim for your credit report here.

[Chris Nero] 18:04:31

Um, Nicole?

[Nicole Pacheco] 18:04:33

Awesome, thank you.

[Chris Nero] 18:04:36

Alright, so I was going through…

[Chris Nero] 18:04:39

I was thinking about doing some, you know, there's a lot of stuff that we want to have done, but I feel like I gotta close some loops.

[Chris Nero] 18:04:46

So,

[Chris Nero] 18:04:49

Everybody's done their 1099Bs, or… not yet?

[kimberlybyrd] 18:04:55

In regards to what?

[Chris Nero] 18:04:57

filing the 1099s, I just want to make sure everybody's done the 1099Bs.

[Chris Nero] 18:05:03

And the A's and the B's with your bank.

[kimberlybyrd] 18:05:05

Oh, okay.

[Chris Nero] 18:05:06

Anything else to leave?

[james] 18:05:08

Yes.

[kimberlybyrd] 18:05:09

I have.

[Chris Nero] 18:05:10

The reason I'm doing this is because I've been going through a lot of

[Chris Nero] 18:05:13

from the records.

[Chris Nero] 18:05:16

And obviously,

[Chris Nero] 18:05:18

you know, we've had some anomalies.

[Chris Nero] 18:05:21

And…

[Chris Nero] 18:05:24

I had to go back to the roots.

[Chris Nero] 18:05:26

And I think there may be a, you know, a few people that are here that remember

[Chris Nero] 18:05:31

Um, when we were first doing this,

[Chris Nero] 18:05:35

And I… for whatever reason,

[Chris Nero] 18:05:43

I think maybe it was just out of convenience.

[Chris Nero] 18:05:52

I don't know if you remember this, Jason.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:05:54

We lost you, Chris.

[Chris Nero] 18:05:54

Um,

[Chris Nero] 18:05:57

Can you hear me now?

[damone johnson] 18:06:00

Yeah.

[Chris Nero] 18:06:00

Can you hear me now?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:06:01

Yes, we can.

[Chris Nero] 18:06:03

Okay, so I don't know if Jason remembers this, and maybe Damon, there's a few people that may have been here.

[Chris Nero] 18:06:09

Um, and this is back in the day when we had the older first group, and we were all together.

[Chris Nero] 18:06:16

so many… it's just… it was just too many people that…

[Chris Nero] 18:06:20

But I was… what I wanted to do is I wanted to get through

[Chris Nero] 18:06:25

Um, an exercise for me, on who I felt

[Chris Nero] 18:06:29

would be with us where we're at. This is the circle, um, that we start off with, you know, over 100 people, you know that.

[Chris Nero] 18:06:37

Um, and…

[Chris Nero] 18:06:41

I went back…

[Chris Nero] 18:06:43

And I started looking at some of the things that I was doing,

[Chris Nero] 18:06:47

that I was having…

[Chris Nero] 18:06:50

Um, some good results on.

[Chris Nero] 18:06:53

And I…

[Chris Nero] 18:06:56

I started going through my pattern,

[Chris Nero] 18:06:59

And…

[Chris Nero] 18:07:01

The things that I was… that was working…

[Chris Nero] 18:07:06

was the 1099s that I was doing by hand.

[Chris Nero] 18:07:08

Okay? Jason, do you remember that?

[Chris Nero] 18:07:12

when we were… when I had that…

[Chris Nero] 18:07:16

first mentality, I was like, no, we don't want to go online. Do you remember that?

[Jason] 18:07:19

Yep.

[Chris Nero] 18:07:21

But I blame… I blame Jason, um…

[Chris Nero] 18:07:25

Because he…

[Chris Nero] 18:07:27

didn't stick to his guns.

[Chris Nero] 18:07:29

Um, and then he went along and said, yeah, let's… let's… let's do the 1099s online. You remember that, Jason?

[Jason] 18:07:38

Yeah, like, kind of.

[Jason] 18:07:40

I didn't know, there…

[Jason] 18:07:42

which time you were talking about, so it's kind of…

[Jason] 18:07:44

convoluted for me.

[Chris Nero] 18:07:47

You remember when you… this was before, obviously, I knew… I knew Jason before we even had the first group.

[Chris Nero] 18:07:54

Actually, I created the first group before I even invited Jason to the first group. Remember that, Jason?

[Jason] 18:07:59

Yeah.

[Chris Nero] 18:08:02

Okay, so…

[Chris Nero] 18:08:05

the conversation that I had…

[Chris Nero] 18:08:07

prior to the group,

[Chris Nero] 18:08:10

was… Jason was…

[Chris Nero] 18:08:14

inquisitive about, you know, how… he had seen a lot of this…

[Chris Nero] 18:08:17

you know, back in those days, I was showing a lot of the stuff.

[Chris Nero] 18:08:21

out there that I probably shouldn't have been showing.

[Chris Nero] 18:08:24

You remember that, Jason?

[Jason] 18:08:26

Yeah.

[Chris Nero] 18:08:28

Yeah. Because I think there's only you, and Raina, but Reyna was part of… not part of the first group. Damon?

[Chris Nero] 18:08:34

You're part of the first group, but you were still kind of…

[Chris Nero] 18:08:38

out there, and Luke, you came in, and everybody else has come in thereafter.

[Chris Nero] 18:08:41

But there was a part…

[Chris Nero] 18:08:44

at a point when I first started off, there was some guy that rattled my cages, and I…

[Chris Nero] 18:08:50

I put out a lot of stuff.

[Chris Nero] 18:08:54

that was private.

[Chris Nero] 18:08:56

that I think Jason, you're one of the main people at Des Moines that saw some of the stuff that I had already done.

[Chris Nero] 18:09:04

that was, you know,

[Chris Nero] 18:09:06

Um, some, you know, a lot of people would be… call it, like, you know, incredible stuff, right?

[Chris Nero] 18:09:13

Um, but I probably… not probably, I shouldn't have put it out there. There was a lot of stuff I had with Fidelity, and…

[Chris Nero] 18:09:20

the courts that I had, you know, done, and monies that came in, and a lot of stuff that…

[Chris Nero] 18:09:25

this group has seen

[Chris Nero] 18:09:28

But maybe have heard of, or whatnot, but…

[Chris Nero] 18:09:32

nevertheless, the point I'm trying to make is that

[Chris Nero] 18:09:37

the things that I were doing

[Chris Nero] 18:09:40

And I have a whole bunch of 1099s, let me… let me show you what they…

[Chris Nero] 18:09:44

If you don't already know what they look like,

[Chris Nero] 18:09:51

They come in a package,

[Chris Nero] 18:09:56

They come in a package.

[Chris Nero] 18:10:00

And…

[Chris Nero] 18:10:10

Jason.

[Chris Nero] 18:10:12

Give me one of those other 1099 packages.

[Chris Nero] 18:10:15

Huh? Package right there, 1099s.

[Chris Nero] 18:10:19

Uh, yes?

[Chris Nero] 18:10:23

So, these… I just picked up the run. This is when we were taking down, uh… oh, I got some real history on this one.

[Chris Nero] 18:10:33

We were taking down an 8… we were taking down…

[Chris Nero] 18:10:38

Um, we're gonna take it down to a homeowners association.

[Chris Nero] 18:10:42

And we default them and took them into Chapter 7 Involuntary Bankruptcy.

[Chris Nero] 18:10:47

And they had, like…

[Chris Nero] 18:10:49

This is how we took care of their debt.

[Chris Nero] 18:10:52

And they had all these attorneys in there.

[Chris Nero] 18:10:56

Oh, man, we took them down.

[Chris Nero] 18:10:59

That's another process, like,

[Chris Nero] 18:11:03

Then we'll talk about, but for now, I want to stay on target.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:06

So,

[Chris Nero] 18:11:08

These are, and I'm sure you've seen them, these are the 1099As.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:14

I suggest you guys all start ordering as many as you can.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:18

This is money.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:22

If anything ever happens…

[Chris Nero] 18:11:24

to where money, fiat money is gone, and all we have is a coin.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:29

I have boxes of these.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:33

And you can order up to 100, I think.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:37

And they have carbon.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:41

So, you have the front page,

[Chris Nero] 18:11:45

The second page, and you know what they feel like? They feel like Bible.

[Chris Nero] 18:11:50

They feel like Bible paper, right?

[Chris Nero] 18:11:54

And do you see how it's…

[Chris Nero] 18:11:57

An Easter pink?

[Chris Nero] 18:12:02

Because it's all equal… it's all ecolatial.

[Chris Nero] 18:12:08

It's blurred.

[Chris Nero] 18:12:11

And then they all come with…

[Chris Nero] 18:12:15

Each package comes with a 1096.

[Chris Nero] 18:12:18

And it comes with your instructions that I strongly suggest the guys always read.

[Chris Nero] 18:12:30

Okay?

[Chris Nero] 18:12:33

And then this… let me see what this is…

[Chris Nero] 18:12:41

You see how they come with…

[Chris Nero] 18:12:44

These?

[Chris Nero] 18:12:48

This is bond paper. This is your underwriter paper.

[Chris Nero] 18:12:51

This is your 1096.

[Chris Nero] 18:12:55

And I was doing these,

[Chris Nero] 18:12:58

and filling them out,

[Chris Nero] 18:13:02

So, I ordered a whole bunch of them.

[Chris Nero] 18:13:04

Because they only come in one?

[Chris Nero] 18:13:07

And they have to have their own standard paper. You can't copy them.

[Chris Nero] 18:13:19

These are transmittal.

[Chris Nero] 18:13:23

And they're called information.

[Chris Nero] 18:13:27

A warrant is an information.

[Chris Nero] 18:13:29

a transmittal

[Chris Nero] 18:13:32

is off… it coincides with your…

[Chris Nero] 18:13:37

transmitting utility.

[Chris Nero] 18:13:41

So, you are…

[Chris Nero] 18:13:44

the man, or the woman,

[Chris Nero] 18:13:47

You are the executor.

[Nicole Pacheco] 18:14:00

He froze?

[Chris Nero] 18:14:07

Your trust, sign as the fiduciary.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:10

So…

[Chris Nero] 18:14:12

The reason I'm bringing it up now…

[Chris Nero] 18:14:16

It's because…

[Chris Nero] 18:14:19

And going back and looking at all the things that I did that I had,

[Chris Nero] 18:14:24

Um, good results on.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:29

And I… and I gotta tell you, I…

[Chris Nero] 18:14:32

I really am not happy that I went

[Chris Nero] 18:14:35

to this… I'm not in a… I'm not a computer guy, but…

[Chris Nero] 18:14:41

When I got my TCC,

[Chris Nero] 18:14:43

It was exciting that we could do the 1099s online.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:49

And so we started doing the 1099s online, and I went away from

[Chris Nero] 18:14:55

filling them out by hand.

[Chris Nero] 18:14:56

Now,

[Chris Nero] 18:14:59

Interesting enough,

[Chris Nero] 18:15:02

The one that I showed you that I… I discharged the shell point mortgage with,

[Chris Nero] 18:15:08

that had the little brackets in there.

[Chris Nero] 18:15:11

And then they assigned it to Fay. That one's done.

[Chris Nero] 18:15:16

That's how I extinguish the debt.

[Chris Nero] 18:15:20

And I did it, and I put the brackets, and I did it with the Treasury.

[Chris Nero] 18:15:25

Which was paid to the order

[Chris Nero] 18:15:27

of the United States

[Chris Nero] 18:15:30

department, uh, Department of…

[Chris Nero] 18:15:38

I had put on there…

[Chris Nero] 18:15:46

for… for… I put for the credits used for the Department of

[Chris Nero] 18:15:49

The United States Treasury.

[Chris Nero] 18:15:53

And…

[Chris Nero] 18:15:57

I did that on the 1099-OID.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:00

So, remember, you guys acquired…

[Chris Nero] 18:16:03

the 1099-A, the 10 million.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:07

You guys are all familiar with that? Did your… your trust?

[Chris Nero] 18:16:10

Everybody?

[kimberlybyrd] 18:16:12

Yes.

[luke ] 18:16:13

Yes.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:16:13

Yes.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:14

Okay.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:15

And then you got your 1099-B,

[Chris Nero] 18:16:19

The very next one, right?

[Chris Nero] 18:16:22

And that… that puts it into…

[Chris Nero] 18:16:26

the trust.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:29

So the second 1099-B, which you send the next day,

[Chris Nero] 18:16:33

That's the $250 you're gonna get back.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:36

Everybody with me?

[kimberlybyrd] 18:16:37

Correct.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:39

Okay, so there's…

[Chris Nero] 18:16:42

the missing part.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:45

And that is the 1099-OID.

[Chris Nero] 18:16:52

The 1099-OIDA, you have to have…

[Chris Nero] 18:16:57

Um…

[Chris Nero] 18:16:59

Remember, you own.

[Chris Nero] 18:17:02

your Social Security number.

[Chris Nero] 18:17:05

Now, there's a… there's a… there's… I think it's Allie. Allie, is Allie here?

[Chris Nero] 18:17:11

Alex's not here.

[Chris Nero] 18:17:14

Okay, so back in the day,

[Chris Nero] 18:17:16

when we were starting off, everybody was paranoid about using their social security number.

[Chris Nero] 18:17:22

And everybody's like, no, no, and my thoughts were, nah, man, don't worry about it. We all… you… when you do your estate, you kill it, you own it.

[Chris Nero] 18:17:30

Now, everywhere you go today, no matter if you have your treasury,

[Chris Nero] 18:17:36

You own your social security number.

[Chris Nero] 18:17:39

But wherever you go, what do they ask you? They ask you for your social. No matter what happens, right?

[Chris Nero] 18:17:48

you're gonna… we're gonna need to do a 1099-OID,

[Chris Nero] 18:17:53

And you will get your check in 3 weeks, maybe 4 weeks.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:00

I may…

[Chris Nero] 18:18:02

just… does anybody have 1099 OIDs paper?

[Chris Nero] 18:18:08

Anyone? No.

[kimberlybyrd] 18:18:10

No.

[luke ] 18:18:12

Chris, I do. This is Luke.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:15

Loki do, okay, good.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:16

Okay, so what I may do…

[Chris Nero] 18:18:21

is I have the 1099 OIDs,

[Chris Nero] 18:18:25

And I will…

[Chris Nero] 18:18:27

Fill them out for you guys.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:29

And then I'm going to mail them…

[Chris Nero] 18:18:33

to you filled out, and you have to mail them out.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:37

Okay?

[Chris Nero] 18:18:40

That way, you get your $250,000. This is the way you're gonna do it.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:45

So, you're gonna use… the social pays

[Chris Nero] 18:18:50

This is with dashes.

[Chris Nero] 18:18:53

On the 1096,

[Chris Nero] 18:18:56

I mean, on the 1041,

[Chris Nero] 18:18:59

V, you won't have dashes.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:03

So, I'm gonna go through this very, very slow, so you guys can follow me.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:09

Everybody that did the 1099-B has $10 million of credits with a U's from the 1099-A.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:16

That's how you acquired it.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:18

We are… we're all in agreement on that?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:19:22

No.

[kimberlybyrd] 18:19:22

Yes.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:23

Okay.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:24

And we all know…

[Chris Nero] 18:19:29

Did you receive something from your bank?

[Chris Nero] 18:19:33

Confirming this.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:35

So there are a few people here that can confirm that?

[kimberlybyrd] 18:19:38

I can confirm it.

[Nicole Pacheco] 18:19:39

Yes.

[james] 18:19:40

Yeah, that's correct.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:42

Damon?

[Chris Nero] 18:19:46

Have you done it? Have you done yours?

[damone johnson] 18:19:47

Yep.

[damone johnson] 18:19:49

Yeah.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:51

Did you get anything back? Did you get something back from your bank confirming it?

[damone johnson] 18:19:52

Yes, I have.

[Chris Nero] 18:19:56

Like, in the mail.

[damone johnson] 18:19:58

Uh, I believe I haven't.

[damone johnson] 18:20:01

Yeah.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:01

Okay, all right. So, here's the deal, guys.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:06

And…

[Chris Nero] 18:20:09

This is my…

[Chris Nero] 18:20:12

space out…

[Chris Nero] 18:20:15

But I'm glad it's just us and the group.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:18

Because this is it.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:22

So, I'm…

[Chris Nero] 18:20:25

Luke, you have yours. I'll send you a copy, but…

[Chris Nero] 18:20:28

I suggest everybody today start ordering

[Chris Nero] 18:20:31

1099 age, you can go to the irs.gov.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:35

What are yourselves some A's?

[Chris Nero] 18:20:38

some bees, O-IDs,

[Chris Nero] 18:20:43

DIV and miscellaneous.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:48

The 1099 is a dividend.

[Chris Nero] 18:20:52

I don't… I don't want to get everybody…

[Chris Nero] 18:20:55

confused, so for right now, we're gonna… we're gonna focus on…

[Chris Nero] 18:20:59

what you have that's going to work 100%.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:04

Okay? That's right, I said 100%.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:09

Because if we go back to my old model,

[Chris Nero] 18:21:14

And we use the 1099, and that makes sense now, because it's really biblical.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:19

These forms are like Bible paper,

[Chris Nero] 18:21:22

They're echelatial colors, like, if you look at the…

[Chris Nero] 18:21:26

The 1096,

[Chris Nero] 18:21:28

is also Easter. There's another one that's Easter Blue.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:33

Easter Green.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:36

I don't want to go in so deep, but I'm just trying to make points that it's in the… it's in the… it's in biblical form.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:43

If you write it with your hand,

[Chris Nero] 18:21:48

if you go onto the OnFire, they always want to know if you're a robot or not.

[Chris Nero] 18:21:53

or whatever. To me,

[Chris Nero] 18:21:57

I believe that the stuff that you need to do to get your return back,

[Chris Nero] 18:22:04

you need to do…

[Chris Nero] 18:22:07

with your… you need to write it with your hand.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:11

And then you need to mail it, and I believe it'll be to…

[Chris Nero] 18:22:16

where I was selling to Ogden.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:18

Utah.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:21

You will use your social.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:26

Okay?

[Chris Nero] 18:22:28

And then you will use your bank's TIN.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:32

on the 1099. I'm gonna do…

[Chris Nero] 18:22:35

I'm gonna fill one out.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:37

for everyone that doesn't have it,

[Chris Nero] 18:22:41

And I'll get your bags, 10s sent to me.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:45

Then you're going to use… you gotta use…

[Chris Nero] 18:22:48

Not 2025.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:52

You have to go back.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:54

a year.

[Chris Nero] 18:22:57

Jason, do you remember when I was bringing this up?

[Jason] 18:23:01

Yeah, because we did… I think we did 23. Most people, we did 23.

[Nicole Pacheco] 18:23:05

Yeah, 2023.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:08

Okay.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:10

So, the missing language on the 1099-OID

[Chris Nero] 18:23:17

has to be… you have to credit the Treasury.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:21

You're paying to the order of the…

[Chris Nero] 18:23:23

United States Department of Treasury.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:25

So, you have to go in…

[Chris Nero] 18:23:30

This is part of it.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:32

You have to have a 1041

[Chris Nero] 18:23:37

amended. Do you guys all know what a 1041 amended is?

[Jason] 18:23:41

Yeah, that's what we did on the, um…

[Jason] 18:23:43

when we mailed in the tax forms.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:46

Yes, okay.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:48

So, pretty much…

[Jason] 18:23:49

Bring the stigma together.

[Chris Nero] 18:23:51

You should have had on line 14,

[Chris Nero] 18:23:56

$250,000, right?

[Jason] 18:23:57

Yeah, 1041X.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:00

Yes, and then you should have checked that box on line 14, right?

[Jason] 18:24:06

Um…

[Chris Nero] 18:24:08

There's a box on line 14 that you check.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:16

Then, on line 19,

[Chris Nero] 18:24:17

That's gonna be the same amount, $250,000, right?

[Chris Nero] 18:24:23

And then if you read…

[Chris Nero] 18:24:27

Line 19, it says,

[Chris Nero] 18:24:28

You gotta go to 1 through 26.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:32

24, 25, 26.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:35

Line 26 is gonna be the same. $250,000.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:41

Okay? Everything else is a zero.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:45

At the top, it's gonna be your trust.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:50

And it's gonna be the date that you opened up your trust.

[Chris Nero] 18:24:57

you're, um…

[Chris Nero] 18:24:58

Your CP575, the day that you called in for your EIN?

[Chris Nero] 18:25:03

That's the date that goes on there. It needs to match your trust.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:09

I'm gonna put everything together, don't worry. You're gonna have vigil.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:15

If you do it… when you do it like this,

[Chris Nero] 18:25:19

It's 100%.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:22

100%.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:24

You don't want to do… Jason, do you also remember when we were talking about this, and I changed my mind about the 8888?

[Jason] 18:25:35

Um…

[Chris Nero] 18:25:37

You remember back in the day, I was like, nah, mail it!

[Chris Nero] 18:25:39

We gotta mail it!

[Jason] 18:25:41

All right.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:43

And then I switched to getting paid with the 888,

[Jason] 18:25:48

I do remember that, yes.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:50

Okay, well…

[Chris Nero] 18:25:52

I was wrong.

[Chris Nero] 18:25:57

We can't…

[Chris Nero] 18:25:59

I'm not saying we can't, like, right now, but…

[Chris Nero] 18:26:03

the computer algorithm

[Jason] 18:26:04

at this stage

[Chris Nero] 18:26:05

It's not gonna allow it until it sees that your back.

[Chris Nero] 18:26:10

and you're doing banking,

[Chris Nero] 18:26:12

So you're gonna do…

[Chris Nero] 18:26:17

So, so did you guys understand what we're doing here? It's private banking. The 1099 is putting

[Chris Nero] 18:26:26

taking that $250,000

[Chris Nero] 18:26:29

that's sitting at the bank.

[Chris Nero] 18:26:32

or your transcripts that are going to come in, right?

[Chris Nero] 18:26:34

You with me so far?

[Chris Nero] 18:26:37

The 1099OID.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:26:37

Yes.

[Chris Nero] 18:26:44

where you pay the Treasury,

[Chris Nero] 18:26:46

The Treasury…

[Chris Nero] 18:26:49

It's like, if you went to your bank and you deposited a check in there.

[Chris Nero] 18:26:55

All right? That's positive.

[Chris Nero] 18:26:58

Then you're gonna go, and you're gonna get the 1041V.

[Jason] 18:26:59

Weibo

[Chris Nero] 18:27:04

And you gotta use that with no dashes.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:08

This is how I did it.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:11

And I will say that maybe because I have so many people in my ear,

[Chris Nero] 18:27:18

I'm not making excuses, I took full responsibility, but back in…

[Chris Nero] 18:27:22

Back in those days, that was…

[Chris Nero] 18:27:24

let's just say there was a lot going on in my life.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:27

And I wanted everybody to get their money faster, and I went along with certain things.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:34

Again, I take full responsibility. I should have just…

[Chris Nero] 18:27:37

stayed with what worked.

[Jason] 18:27:40

Well, Chris, we… we did… we… we put, um… we didn't check the box.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:41

Yes.

[Jason] 18:27:46

On 14.

[Jason] 18:27:48

for the federal income tax withheld, and the $50,000 gift to the Treasury.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:50

That's okay. It's okay.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:52

It's okay, because you can do… that's why I said you're gonna do the amended.

[Jason] 18:27:57

It's been a big event since we've gone.

[Chris Nero] 18:27:59

You can do as many amendments in there. If you want to shorten your name, all that stuff.

[Jason] 18:28:01

Right.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:05

You can do as many amendments, like, if you want to go back later, and you want to pull out

[Chris Nero] 18:28:11

You want to pull out to buy a house?

[Chris Nero] 18:28:14

Then you're gonna go back and use the amended and use the same method.

[Jason] 18:28:18

get their hands up. Right.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:20

Okay? But for now,

[Jason] 18:28:21

Great.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:23

Let's just, for…

[Jason] 18:28:26

job with nitrogen Live.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:26

sensical…

[Jason] 18:28:30

Have you ever done some time?

[Chris Nero] 18:28:30

you know, to have some sort of common sense of what we're doing, I want to make this…

[Chris Nero] 18:28:34

focus on your $250,000. You can always go back and get more.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:42

The 1041V is the key!

[Chris Nero] 18:28:47

Think of it… have you ever read your 1041V instructions?

[Chris Nero] 18:28:52

It says, make your check payable to the United States Treasury.

[Chris Nero] 18:28:58

And that's your 1099 OID.

[Chris Nero] 18:29:00

And in the box.

[Chris Nero] 18:29:03

Think of your 1041V

[Chris Nero] 18:29:06

as your debit card.

[Chris Nero] 18:29:09

you're gonna put a negative amount

[Chris Nero] 18:29:11

You know, $250,000 in parentheses in the 1041D.

[Jason] 18:29:13

That's a great point.

[Jason] 18:29:16

Okay, that's fine

[Chris Nero] 18:29:17

The name of your trust,

[Chris Nero] 18:29:19

The name of the trustee and the address where you want the check.

[Chris Nero] 18:29:24

delivered.

[Chris Nero] 18:29:26

And you will get your check.

[Jason] 18:29:29

Yeah, but they're gonna take the 50?

[Jason] 18:29:32

out for the Treasury, then automatically?

[Jason] 18:29:35

Or is it a new… since we're amending it, we're gonna drop that bar?

[Chris Nero] 18:29:36

This is gonna be new, we're gonna go in amend it.

[Chris Nero] 18:29:40

This is a… this is gonna be…

[Chris Nero] 18:29:43

The good news is that everybody has confirmation.

[Chris Nero] 18:29:48

If you got something back from your bank,

[Chris Nero] 18:29:56

Or are transcripts.

[Chris Nero] 18:29:58

Jason, you have transcripts.

[Jason] 18:30:02

Legendary transcripts, yes.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:04

And has anybody else checked their transcripts?

[Jason] 18:30:09

Everybody's good except for, um…

[Jason] 18:30:11

Rena and, um…

[Jason] 18:30:13

Kimberly, as far as I know yet, and then James and…

[Jason] 18:30:16

Allie, not sure, but we've… we've all checked ours, and we've…

[Jason] 18:30:20

Some of ours look a little different.

[Jason] 18:30:23

slightly different.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:30:26

Uh, we're still waiting for hours to show in the transcript.

[damone johnson] 18:30:26

you know

[Chris Nero] 18:30:30

Okay, the good news is…

[Chris Nero] 18:30:35

But you guys got them from the bank.

[Jason] 18:30:38

Uh…

[james] 18:30:38

I got it… I got it from the bank, but I haven't, uh…

[james] 18:30:41

seen it in the transcript as of 3 days ago.

[Jason] 18:30:41

It was worth it to

[Chris Nero] 18:30:44

Okay, it's good.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:46

Because it doesn't matter.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:50

If you got it from your bank,

[Chris Nero] 18:30:53

you're good to go.

[Chris Nero] 18:30:56

All right?

[Jason] 18:30:59

And Chris, when you say…

[Chris Nero] 18:30:59

It's good. Hmm?

[Jason] 18:31:02

When you say, when you got it from your bank, are you talking about the 1099, um, receipt?

[Chris Nero] 18:31:08

Yes.

[Jason] 18:31:09

Okay. I'm not sure if people understand the difference between those two.

[james] 18:31:15

What is the difference?

[Chris Nero] 18:31:17

There is… there is no difference. The difference is, is that the bank has…

[Chris Nero] 18:31:22

the bank has let you know that your private banking has gone through.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:27

What did you receive?

[Chris Nero] 18:31:29

Jim? You received something?

[james] 18:31:32

Uh, yeah, I got the 1099-B from the, uh…

[james] 18:31:36

First Citizens Bank, where my, uh, trust is.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:39

Okay.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:43

Has everybody else received something like that?

[kimberlybyrd] 18:31:46

Yes, I received mine

[Nicole Pacheco] 18:31:47

Yes.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:49

Okay, you're good to go.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:31:50

I haven't received anything.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:53

Raina, you haven't received anything from your bank?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:31:55

No.

[Chris Nero] 18:32:03

Who's the bank?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:32:07

Wells Fargo.

[Chris Nero] 18:32:07

Marina?

[Chris Nero] 18:32:13

And you did it… you did it exactly, like…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:32:13

is Welsh rider.

[Jason] 18:32:14

I'm curious

[Chris Nero] 18:32:17

We had stated?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:32:19

Yes, sir?

[Chris Nero] 18:32:26

I need to see your package.

[Chris Nero] 18:32:31

Send it to me tonight.

[Chris Nero] 18:32:35

Okay, so let's get back…

[Chris Nero] 18:32:39

The reason I'm focusing on this package

[Chris Nero] 18:32:43

It's because this is the closest…

[Chris Nero] 18:32:46

that you all are ever gonna be.

[Chris Nero] 18:32:51

to making this happen. This is, like,

[Chris Nero] 18:32:56

I'm so positive.

[Chris Nero] 18:32:58

that you'll get it. If we do… when you do this.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:02

Because…

[Chris Nero] 18:33:04

If we go back, Jason, when I was telling you about… remember when we were having conversations about how I was

[Chris Nero] 18:33:10

I was doing things, I was doing things with the 1099s, you know, because I didn't know how to do the computer stuff.

[Jason] 18:33:13

Uh-huh.

[Jason] 18:33:16

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:16

I was doing it by hand.

[Jason] 18:33:19

Yep.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:21

Okay, well…

[Chris Nero] 18:33:24

That's… that's the method we need to do.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:28

And I… I will tell you that

[Jason] 18:33:28

So,

[Chris Nero] 18:33:31

The reason that I did go the other route

[Chris Nero] 18:33:37

And I shouldn't have been swayed, but I was.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:42

So, I think at this point,

[Chris Nero] 18:33:45

We're just gonna leave all that in the past.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:48

And we're gonna focus on this.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:50

The good news is, guys, I have a whole bunch of 1099 OIDs.

[Jason] 18:33:55

So, Chris…

[Chris Nero] 18:33:55

Luke, how many do you have?

[Jason] 18:34:01

Chris, while Luke is, look…

[luke ] 18:34:02

Uh… probably 50.

[Jason] 18:34:04

Are you able to fill in the year, or do they come pre-printed as… for the year?

[Chris Nero] 18:34:08

The years are… the years, they're just, like, 20, and then they're blank.

[luke ] 18:34:09

No, they're…

[Jason] 18:34:14

for the OIDs. I know…

[luke ] 18:34:14

Yeah, 40 or 50, Chris?

[Chris Nero] 18:34:17

Okay, so…

[Chris Nero] 18:34:21

That would leave… how many… let me see, we got Kim…

[Chris Nero] 18:34:25

Reyna, Jim…

[Chris Nero] 18:34:28

Allie…

[Chris Nero] 18:34:30

Jason…

[Chris Nero] 18:34:32

Did I already say Kim?

[Jason] 18:34:36

Well, you can just see the participants on the group. I think everyone's here.

[Jason] 18:34:39

And we have 9.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:40

Well, okay, so we got 9, so minus…

[Jason] 18:34:41

Including you.

[Chris Nero] 18:34:43

Minus, um…

[Chris Nero] 18:34:46

Luke…

[Chris Nero] 18:34:47

So, Luke, what we're gonna do is, I'm gonna make…

[Chris Nero] 18:34:53

Um, an example with mine, because I'm doing one

[Chris Nero] 18:34:58

from my mortgage?

[Chris Nero] 18:35:01

Because I have my transcripts for the $913,000.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:05

500?

[Jason] 18:35:06

Oh, that's against the 10 million?

[Chris Nero] 18:35:10

No, this is… this is a… this is different. It's just… it's gonna… this works.

[Jason] 18:35:13

So…

[Jason] 18:35:15

Makes sense.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:16

for what you have,

[Chris Nero] 18:35:19

in your private bank, or in your transcripts.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:22

for me, I got so many credits in there,

[Jason] 18:35:28

I'm just curious

[Chris Nero] 18:35:28

And by the way,

[Chris Nero] 18:35:30

For those that I've done big deals for,

[Chris Nero] 18:35:33

I'm going back. This is gonna speed up…

[Chris Nero] 18:35:37

the checks.

[Chris Nero] 18:35:39

Which, I know it's gonna be good for…

[Chris Nero] 18:35:41

A lot of you that have done mortgages or whatever,

[Jason] 18:35:46

Well, Chris, it…

[Chris Nero] 18:35:47

This is the way. Yeah, yeah.

[Jason] 18:35:49

So, are you saying… so we also… the last time we discussed this, I know it was a few weeks ago, and a lot's happened since, but…

[Jason] 18:35:55

Um, one of the things we also talked about was, remember, because I've asked, um, Timon,

[Jason] 18:36:01

We've been on the phone.

[Jason] 18:36:02

I think Luke and I have been briefly on the phone, and we talked about

[Jason] 18:36:07

the ledgers and the 250. It looks like the 250…

[Jason] 18:36:09

was put out in the federal withholding, so when we and you spoke, before I spoke to Dimona, Luke, when I was trying to compare

[Jason] 18:36:16

if our things were the same, you said, potentially, and I might be putting words so you can correct me, but you said something like,

[Jason] 18:36:22

Oh, they're freezing the 250. Do you remember that?

[Chris Nero] 18:36:26

Yeah, they're freezing it because we haven't…

[Chris Nero] 18:36:31

done the amendment.

[Jason] 18:36:32

Correct.

[Chris Nero] 18:36:34

And remember we had that conver…

[Jason] 18:36:35

Oh, wait.

[Jason] 18:36:37

Wait, well, we did the 1041,

[Jason] 18:36:40

But you're saying we should have done it differently, that's why we have to do an amendment?

[Chris Nero] 18:36:46

Yes, the box…

[Chris Nero] 18:36:48

You didn't have the box?

[Chris Nero] 18:36:51

uh, marked with an X.

[Chris Nero] 18:36:53

And you didn't have line 26.

[Jason] 18:36:57

Line 26, we put $200,000 in it.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:02

Yes.

[Jason] 18:37:05

Which…

[Chris Nero] 18:37:05

And line 14… and line 14 and 19?

[Jason] 18:37:08

14 was 0, 19 was 0.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:11

Okay, well, that's the error.

[Jason] 18:37:15

Ah!

[Chris Nero] 18:37:16

That's the error, guys.

[Jason] 18:37:16

Okay, so…

[Jason] 18:37:18

We had… we had… we only had, um… we had zeros and everything except for 26.

[Jason] 18:37:24

29 and 30. Do we just blame Tulip on this one? Because she can't defend herself?

[Chris Nero] 18:37:28

I'm not… I'm not gonna blame anybody except for I take the responsibility… it's… listen, guys,

[Jason] 18:37:32

This kid… this kid.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:34

The thing about it is…

[Chris Nero] 18:37:38

The thing about life is that

[Chris Nero] 18:37:40

we're all gonna make mistakes. I think I told you this before, I'm…

[Chris Nero] 18:37:45

I'm still a work in progress, man.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:47

I… I, myself,

[Jason] 18:37:47

Well, yeah.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:50

was swayed.

[Chris Nero] 18:37:53

But it's my responsibility to hold my course, because you see,

[Chris Nero] 18:37:57

And, you know, hindsight is always 20-20.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:00

And if I go back to what's worked for me,

[Chris Nero] 18:38:05

That's… and the reason that I went the other wave is because a lot of people didn't have the hard copies.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:12

Like I did.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:14

And I had… I had one group that was 16, and another group that was 30,

[Chris Nero] 18:38:19

And then I had a third group, and…

[Chris Nero] 18:38:21

So,

[Chris Nero] 18:38:24

I ultimately made

[Chris Nero] 18:38:27

Um, the call to do it online.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:31

Now,

[Jason] 18:38:31

But…

[Chris Nero] 18:38:33

The 1099-A and the 1099-Bs, that's fine.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:38

But when you're pulling the money back,

[Chris Nero] 18:38:43

Who's the originator on the O?

[Chris Nero] 18:38:46

We're the originator, right?

[Jason] 18:38:47

Yep.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:51

Whose interest is it?

[Chris Nero] 18:38:53

Ours!

[Jason] 18:38:54

That's where that's birth.

[Chris Nero] 18:38:55

And it has to be directed back to the originator.

[Chris Nero] 18:39:03

And the 1099 owner ID…

[Chris Nero] 18:39:07

has to be paid to the U.S. Department of Treasury.

[Jason] 18:39:14

Well, if you…

[Chris Nero] 18:39:14

And then you use your… then you use your debit card, your 1041V.

[Chris Nero] 18:39:20

With dashes.

[Chris Nero] 18:39:22

I mean, with no dashes.

[Chris Nero] 18:39:27

Because that frees it, that frees the no dashes. I don't know, like, I listen to a lot of… back in the day, when I was listening to Divine, he was like,

[Chris Nero] 18:39:37

If you use the dashes, it stops the flow.

[Chris Nero] 18:39:40

With no dashes, it just flows through.

[Chris Nero] 18:39:46

And that 1041V is a money order!

[Chris Nero] 18:39:52

And it's the negative amount that pulls from the OID, which is the credit amount.

[Jason] 18:39:58

Well, Chris, to the amounts that you're stating, because on Box 30, where it's the net,

[Jason] 18:40:05

The $200,000 is being refunded,

[Jason] 18:40:06

then how… how… is in 14…

[Chris Nero] 18:40:08

You can move… listen, forget all that.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:10

You can put whatever freakin' amount you want.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:14

You get $10 million in there.

[Jason] 18:40:17

Well, box 14 is for attorneys and accountants.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:22

We are an accountant.

[Jason] 18:40:24

Right, where the…

[Chris Nero] 18:40:25

We're 14… 14, you gotta check that box.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:30

On the line 14, on the 1041 amend, where you're amending.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:35

And then, line 19 is going to be $250,000.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:40

And line 26 is going to be the same.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:43

That's it.

[Jason] 18:40:46

Well, line 26 is 200.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:49

I just told you…

[Chris Nero] 18:40:52

It doesn't matter.

[Chris Nero] 18:40:56

The only reason I'm telling you guys to stick with the $200 or $250,000

[Chris Nero] 18:41:01

is so that the computer algorithm gets used to you.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:06

You've all been dead at sea!

[Jason] 18:41:08

Right.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:09

You're coming back to get your… the booty!

[Chris Nero] 18:41:13

And your ship!

[Jason] 18:41:13

Right.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:15

Your citizenship

[Chris Nero] 18:41:18

Now I'm sounding more and more like divine, Jesus Christ.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:20

And…

[Jason] 18:41:22

Well, well…

[Chris Nero] 18:41:22

And you're going in,

[Chris Nero] 18:41:25

So that you can get…

[Chris Nero] 18:41:28

out of your private bank,

[Chris Nero] 18:41:34

Your trust…

[Jason] 18:41:35

Because of her heart.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:36

is not at…

[Chris Nero] 18:41:38

It's not with your bank, it's at that bank.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:42

It's a pass-through.

[Jason] 18:41:44

Correct.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:45

It's a holding company for your…

[Chris Nero] 18:41:48

credits in the private.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:53

The artificial intelligence is your private banker.

[Chris Nero] 18:41:58

Wink wink, there's no words, they can't hear you!

[Chris Nero] 18:42:04

Even when you try to go into the bank and talk to them, there's bankers…

[Chris Nero] 18:42:09

Secrecy laws.

[Chris Nero] 18:42:14

I went in and tried to talk to some of these guys.

[Chris Nero] 18:42:18

They're so fucking scared!

[Chris Nero] 18:42:23

This is why we gotta use the methods that we're using.

[Chris Nero] 18:42:28

Basically, what I'm saying is…

[Chris Nero] 18:42:32

let's just go back to what worked for me.

[Chris Nero] 18:42:35

mentality.

[Chris Nero] 18:42:38

Because my Achilles heel is when I went…

[Chris Nero] 18:42:42

Don't get me wrong, you're not throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

[Chris Nero] 18:42:47

We're only talking about the OIDs.

[Jason] 18:42:51

Correct.

[Chris Nero] 18:42:52

And the 1041V.

[Jason] 18:42:54

Well, also, it might…

[Jason] 18:42:56

the way you're… that may have worked for you a little more efficiently is also because…

[Jason] 18:43:01

The more they can see someone live, like a man or woman writing stuff,

[Chris Nero] 18:43:06

Yes! Yeah, no, we talked about this.

[Jason] 18:43:07

That helps.

[Jason] 18:43:12

Yeah, because it stops all the identity, like, you know, when, you know, they put up all the different hurdles, which we've… they're not really hurdles, they're kind of doing us a favor, because…

[Jason] 18:43:21

They're trying to make sure we are who we are.

[Chris Nero] 18:43:23

Yes, because you see, there's so many people out there

[Chris Nero] 18:43:27

that are taken from your account electronically.

[Jason] 18:43:30

Yeah. Exactly.

[Jason] 18:43:33

shit that we don't even know about.

[Chris Nero] 18:43:34

And this is the… this… this is the key. I wanted to see if I had this.

[Chris Nero] 18:43:41

Let me see, hold on, guys.

[damone johnson] 18:43:46

So we have to, uh, order these forms then to…

[damone johnson] 18:43:49

The 1041V.

[Jason] 18:43:52

No, that one… no, that one you could just…

[Chris Nero] 18:43:52

Um, you can get… no, those you can get online.

[Jason] 18:43:55

Yeah, those you can get online, Damon. It's the 1099 is because of the, um…

[Jason] 18:43:59

Because of the way the carbon paper works.

[damone johnson] 18:44:02

Oh, okay.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:02

All right.

[Jason] 18:44:03

And you got… and you gotta keep certain records for yourself, and you submit the originals, you'll see the instructions.

[Jason] 18:44:09

But you go online, you literally… I mean, they'll just… they'll send them out a couple days later.

[Jason] 18:44:14

You'll send them right to your email address.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:15

Okay, so I just… I just got this letter.

[Jason] 18:44:19

We had some of the frustration.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:19

From the IRS.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:22

I think this is on wave 1,007.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:25

I'll read it, and I'll show it to you.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:28

Uh, this is for the trust.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:30

And it has me on there, you can see at the top.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:33

Can you see that?

[Jason] 18:44:37

Uh…

[kimberlybyrd] 18:44:39

Yes.

[Jason] 18:44:43

Yeah, we'll take your word for it.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:50

See it?

[kimberlybyrd] 18:44:51

I can see it!

[Chris Nero] 18:44:52

All right.

[Chris Nero] 18:44:55

So they're acknowledging my work,

[Chris Nero] 18:44:59

Uh, we previously sent you a letter about your inquiry received on April the 11th, 2025.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:05

Although we try to respond quickly, we…

[Chris Nero] 18:45:09

often need additional time for the research.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:12

we can't provide a complete response at this time because…

[Chris Nero] 18:45:18

Uh, we need more time.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:20

to provide you with the complete

[Chris Nero] 18:45:23

response to your inquiry.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:26

Um…

[Chris Nero] 18:45:27

So, they're asking for, um…

[Chris Nero] 18:45:34

No, I gotta tell you something.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:36

This is all part of my epiphany.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:42

I don't know if you guys can see right here,

[Chris Nero] 18:45:45

I'm gonna put… I'm gonna put my finger right here.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:47

Do you see what they're asking for?

[kimberlybyrd] 18:45:49

No.

[Jason] 18:45:50

No.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:52

Can you see that?

[kimberlybyrd] 18:45:52

You froze.

[Jason] 18:45:55

verse 16 until the second.

[Chris Nero] 18:45:56

Is it too close?

[kimberlybyrd] 18:45:58

No, you're frozen, Chris.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:01

Can you see it?

[kimberlybyrd] 18:46:03

Nope.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:05

Anybody?

[kimberlybyrd] 18:46:06

Now, okay, so they're asking…

[kimberlybyrd] 18:46:10

I see form…

[kimberlybyrd] 18:46:13

1043?

[Chris Nero] 18:46:15

1041. Good, good, good. I'm happy that we got that.

[kimberlybyrd] 18:46:18

Tim for…

[kimberlybyrd] 18:46:19

Okay.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:20

Form 10.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:23

41.

[Jason] 18:46:27

X.

[Jason] 18:46:30

Well, you haven't done a 1041 on that stuff yet, right?

[Chris Nero] 18:46:35

And this is why…

[Jason] 18:46:38

For sure.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:40

I got… I… I have to go back to the method.

[Chris Nero] 18:46:45

And then it says,

[Chris Nero] 18:46:48

While waiting to hear from us, if

[Chris Nero] 18:46:50

You have a balance

[Chris Nero] 18:46:54

You can still make…

[Chris Nero] 18:46:59

payments to reduce.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:10

internal charges to…

[Chris Nero] 18:47:11

Help us apply payments

[Jason] 18:47:14

100%.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:15

properly.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:17

Make your check or money order payable to the United States Treasury.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:22

And provide on each payment the name, the address, the social security number,

[Chris Nero] 18:47:28

The phone number and everything!

[Chris Nero] 18:47:30

This is it!

[Chris Nero] 18:47:39

You see, I'm suffering from my own ignorance, guys.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:48

This is why everybody's waiting.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:51

for mortgages,

[Chris Nero] 18:47:54

or things that I've done.

[Chris Nero] 18:47:57

They just told me.

[Chris Nero] 18:48:01

And the 1041 that we just went through, what did I just tell you?

[Chris Nero] 18:48:07

It's the amount…

[Chris Nero] 18:48:12

And what's… once that goes in,

[Chris Nero] 18:48:15

I gotta do the 1099-OID!

[Chris Nero] 18:48:20

What did… didn't you… did you hear what it just said?

[Chris Nero] 18:48:25

Make it payable!

[Chris Nero] 18:48:28

to the United States,

[Chris Nero] 18:48:31

Treasury!

[Chris Nero] 18:48:39

And it says you can still make payments to REDUCE!

[Chris Nero] 18:48:43

Your tax liabilities!

[Chris Nero] 18:48:45

That's all the money… all the credits that are in the transcripts, guys.

[Jason] 18:48:56

We have a…

[Chris Nero] 18:48:56

And how do I do it?

[Chris Nero] 18:48:59

I gotta pull it out with the 1041V!

[Chris Nero] 18:49:03

But I gotta do the 1040 amended, 1041V, make it payable to the United States Treasury.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:12

They're waiting on me!

[Jason] 18:49:15

But there's no mention of the OID on there, correct?

[Chris Nero] 18:49:19

That's not their job to tell you what to do, because if we're the originator,

[Chris Nero] 18:49:24

And it's our interest…

[Chris Nero] 18:49:26

Jesus Christ, I just put it right here, look.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:30

They just told you!

[Chris Nero] 18:49:32

I'm gonna highlight it.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:37

So you can see…

[Chris Nero] 18:49:44

Do you see what I circled there? Can you guys see that?

[Chris Nero] 18:49:49

Now?

[james] 18:49:51

Nope.

[kimberlybyrd] 18:49:52

It's blurry.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:52

No?

[Jason] 18:49:54

Oh, wait, in red?

[kimberlybyrd] 18:49:55

Oh, I see an interest.

[Chris Nero] 18:49:59

What is the OID?

[Jason] 18:50:00

Cheers.

[Jason] 18:50:03

And Kimberly has damn good vision.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:05

What is the… what is the OID?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:50:07

What if…

[Jason] 18:50:08

The original issue discount.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:11

Original interest discount.

[Jason] 18:50:14

Well, technically, it's issuer, isn't it?

[Chris Nero] 18:50:19

No.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:20

An issuer has interest.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:23

But it's not in the way that we think interest is.

[Jason] 18:50:26

No, I know.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:28

So,

[Chris Nero] 18:50:30

The interest that they just asked for is the OID.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:35

And then it said,

[Chris Nero] 18:50:38

And then it said…

[Chris Nero] 18:50:44

hear me outlining here so you guys can see with your own eyes.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:50

We just talked about this, guys.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:50:56

Interest.

[Chris Nero] 18:50:58

Okay, so I'm… I just underlined it right here.

[kimberlybyrd] 18:51:05

Okay, payable to United States Treasury.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:15

And the reason that I'm saying this is because it's everything that I did that

[Chris Nero] 18:51:20

I've had freaking made happen for me.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:29

This is, like, the best…

[Chris Nero] 18:51:32

Freakin' news for everybody, because all of you now…

[Chris Nero] 18:51:36

have confirmation.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:38

This is why it's…

[Chris Nero] 18:51:40

It's… it's on a freeze.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:45

This is why some of you guys have it withheld.

[Jason] 18:51:52

Well,

[Jason] 18:51:54

So we're sending the 1041, uh, modification.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:56

debit card.

[Chris Nero] 18:51:58

But you gotta have your 1096, that's your underwriter.

[Jason] 18:51:59

The voucher…

[Chris Nero] 18:52:03

And your 1096 is how you sign in with your 1099, your 1041 amended, your 1041V,

[Jason] 18:52:08

There's a funny hook.

[Jason] 18:52:10

also brought back from their parents.

[Jason] 18:52:12

That's why it's important.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:13

That's your debit card.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:14

And what does it say? Make it payable to the Order of the United States Treasury.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:22

And that's it, guys.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:25

We will be the first group.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:31

But we cannot… once we get it, we can't… listen, guys.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:37

This cannot…

[Chris Nero] 18:52:38

go out.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:41

You cannot share this.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:46

people aren't ready.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:50

And I would suggest that you stick with… stay with the same 250 that you already have done.

[Chris Nero] 18:52:56

Then, after you get that,

[Chris Nero] 18:52:59

You can do another $250, and then after you get that, you can… if you want to buy something, then you can use it to buy, like, a house or whatever.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:09

But, you know what?

[Chris Nero] 18:53:11

I don't want to sound like a freaking cliche guy, but you…

[Chris Nero] 18:53:15

You gotta be… you really gotta be responsible.

[Jason] 18:53:20

Responsible?

[Chris Nero] 18:53:22

very responsible with, you know, with your information.

[Jason] 18:53:28

Yes.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:31

I will tell you, and I think…

[Chris Nero] 18:53:33

You'll agree with me.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:37

Jason, that…

[Chris Nero] 18:53:40

I was a little haughty.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:45

I think I was maybe…

[Chris Nero] 18:53:48

really upset, and I put a lot of shit out there, right?

[Jason] 18:53:53

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 18:53:54

that even you told me.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:01

that a lot of people didn't catch.

[Jason] 18:54:03

Right.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:05

Remember that?

[Jason] 18:54:06

Yeah,

[Chris Nero] 18:54:07

And I had a sense of relief. I was like, well, at least you're the only one that saw it.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:16

And what I mean by that, guys, is that

[Chris Nero] 18:54:19

we don't… I'm not here… even though I did put a lot of shit out there, in hindsight, I should have… I shouldn't have.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:27

Um, but that's all passed.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:31

is that when you guys get your monies, or your credits, whatever you want to call it, your checks,

[Chris Nero] 18:54:38

you have to be…

[Chris Nero] 18:54:42

really, really secretive about…

[Chris Nero] 18:54:44

the things that you're doing.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:47

Because…

[Chris Nero] 18:54:49

You can't bring this into the public.

[Chris Nero] 18:54:55

I will tell you right now, and we had this conversation too, Jason, where, like,

[Chris Nero] 18:54:59

All these people that are out there talking about getting this and getting that,

[Chris Nero] 18:55:07

who's that one girl we were talking about, that Kimri girl, right?

[Jason] 18:55:11

Hey, Maria.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:14

So she grabbed a big check,

[Chris Nero] 18:55:17

In the millions, right?

[Jason] 18:55:18

It was right under a million, like $700.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:22

And… and then…

[Chris Nero] 18:55:24

she co-mingled it into the bank, remember that?

[Jason] 18:55:27

Yeah, yeah, they froze it.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:29

And they froze it, and they ended up taking all her money. Remember that?

[Jason] 18:55:34

Yep.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:37

And then she was under investigation. You remember that?

[Jason] 18:55:41

Yep.

[Chris Nero] 18:55:46

You can't co-mingle your shit

[Jason] 18:55:49

No, people have to be very careful, especially…

[Jason] 18:55:52

Schwab's, the Wells Fargo's, the big ones.

[Jason] 18:55:56

Because you have to understand, I mean, the accounts go… they're flagged, and if they're looking for one little fuck-up,

[Jason] 18:56:02

And you're fucked.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:04

This is why…

[Chris Nero] 18:56:06

When you have your trust,

[Chris Nero] 18:56:09

And your trust authorities are the way they're at,

[Chris Nero] 18:56:12

Like, I'm gonna tell you,

[Chris Nero] 18:56:15

Um, I have a lot of traffic.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:17

that goes through my trust.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:20

And I had PNC,

[Chris Nero] 18:56:24

3 weeks ago, give me a call.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:27

And I had to write a letter.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:30

In an affidavit,

[Chris Nero] 18:56:32

Very similar to a letter like I made out for you, Jim.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:37

And I had to use the Supreme Court case law CCI confidential commercial information.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:44

And I never heard from them again.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:48

Because they wanted to know how come so much…

[Chris Nero] 18:56:51

flow was coming in,

[Chris Nero] 18:56:53

to a trust.

[Chris Nero] 18:56:55

And I said…

[Chris Nero] 18:56:58

I'm a trustee.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:00

And I can't give private information away. I have a fiduciary responsibility to that trust.

[Jason] 18:57:05

Amazing.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:07

And then they said, well, you can go to the bank. I said, well, I want to see

[Chris Nero] 18:57:12

your questions first, and they said, no… and I know my banker real good, Miguel. He's like, no, they don't want me to show you. I said…

[Chris Nero] 18:57:18

I anticipated that, Miggett, and I handed him the letter,

[Chris Nero] 18:57:22

I said, get that up, that was 3 weeks ago.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:25

Now,

[Chris Nero] 18:57:27

If it's a trick, they want to talk to you.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:33

You can't talk to them. You gotta give it to them in written form.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:40

And…

[Chris Nero] 18:57:42

You have to, um… I gave… I gave, uh…

[Chris Nero] 18:57:45

I gave PNC an instrument for $375,000, by the way.

[Chris Nero] 18:57:53

And that'll be left for another story, but…

[Jason] 18:57:55

The Negotiable instruments?

[Chris Nero] 18:57:57

Yeah, remember, I think I told you about that, right? Remember a while back?

[Jason] 18:58:00

Yes.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:02

Okay, anyways…

[Chris Nero] 18:58:06

The only… I'm digressing.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:08

These are all things that you will evolve to.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:12

For right now, I want…

[Chris Nero] 18:58:14

for you guys to get…

[Jason] 18:58:16

It's to go up 16.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:17

some freedom.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:20

So that you can focus more on some of the stuff

[Chris Nero] 18:58:25

and have more time, peace of mind.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:31

So, what we need to do here…

[Chris Nero] 18:58:33

And I had some other stuff that Raina had… we had spoke about that had to do with…

[Chris Nero] 18:58:40

utilities and all this, but…

[Chris Nero] 18:58:42

We… this is too important to leave open.

[Jason] 18:58:44

Saturday on CBS.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:46

We gotta have this closed.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:48

And done… and done right.

[Chris Nero] 18:58:52

And I think… I think there's a lot of people that

[Chris Nero] 18:58:56

probably wouldn't have brought this up, because…

[Chris Nero] 18:59:01

But I had to bring it up because…

[Chris Nero] 18:59:07

I couldn't just sit here

[Chris Nero] 18:59:12

waiting for you guys to get something.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:15

on a maybe, when I know that this works,

[Chris Nero] 18:59:21

And this is why I have so many 1099s,

[Chris Nero] 18:59:25

And it just happened to be that I was… I was cleaning out all my files and stuff, right?

[Chris Nero] 18:59:33

And I have so many.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:36

And I was looking at all the 1099s that I had had written.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:41

Handridden! And I have a little Corona typewriter.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:46

So, we were using the Corona.

[Chris Nero] 18:59:51

But I was just… at some point, I was like, screw the corona, I'm just gonna ride in with my… with ink, right? Black ink. Has to be black ink.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:00

And uh… and that…

[Chris Nero] 19:00:02

is what was working.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:04

That's what was… yeah.

[Jason] 19:00:05

Chris.

[Jason] 19:00:06

Chris, Luke and I talked last week, because we were, you know, we were talking about both…

[Jason] 19:00:10

being frozen, and we talked about that letter. Remember, we did an enforcement?

[Jason] 19:00:14

You and I did enforcement letter that we were working on. Do you want me to…

[Jason] 19:00:18

So you're saying hold off on that? Because I told Luke I'm not…

[Jason] 19:00:23

I wasn't 100% on it yet, based on what you sent me.

[Jason] 19:00:26

So that… we could freeze that for a second.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:31

Yeah.

[Jason] 19:00:33

Do you remember that, or no?

[Chris Nero] 19:00:34

Yes. Yeah, I remember.

[Jason] 19:00:36

Yeah, because I read some stuff to Luke.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:38

No, I…

[Chris Nero] 19:00:40

I just… I just… I don't think any of that's gonna be…

[Chris Nero] 19:00:45

relevant right now.

[Jason] 19:00:48

Yeah, because, like, for example,

[Jason] 19:00:50

Like, some people didn't get the Laricelli letter, like I did.

[Jason] 19:00:54

We call it the Larry Celli letter.

[Jason] 19:00:58

Mysteries.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:59

You know, Laricelli's an AI.

[Jason] 19:00:59

Mr. Jimmy?

[Jason] 19:01:02

Yeah, it's beautiful.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:03

He's an AI.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:06

Laricelli…

[Chris Nero] 19:01:07

And then I got all these letters. Now, I will tell you…

[Chris Nero] 19:01:10

I'm gonna tell you what I like…

[Jason] 19:01:10

Aren't you suing? Aren't you suing the AI?

[Chris Nero] 19:01:15

No, but I will tell you what I like about this letter.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:35

Is there… I'm starting to get names.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:40

I don't need to be… you know, the thing about it is when… sometimes when you… and you… I hope you… you folks understand this, is that…

[Chris Nero] 19:01:48

my… my… my thoughts…

[Chris Nero] 19:01:50

When I hear that you guys are going through something,

[Chris Nero] 19:01:55

Automatically,

[Chris Nero] 19:01:59

is action.

[Chris Nero] 19:02:01

Instead of me, you know, pulling back and saying, okay, what did I do?

[Chris Nero] 19:02:07

Now, I'm on the…

[Chris Nero] 19:02:09

I'm like, okay, let's take them down.

[Chris Nero] 19:02:13

My mindset…

[Chris Nero] 19:02:15

Let's do this, let's send them that, let's go after them, right?

[Chris Nero] 19:02:21

And so, as I… as I… as I continue on this path,

[Chris Nero] 19:02:28

It's not always going to be that.

[Chris Nero] 19:02:32

And so, I'm glad that when I was going through my files,

[Chris Nero] 19:02:37

And I was looking at ShellPoint Mortgage,

[Chris Nero] 19:02:43

Um, do you guys remember that?

[Jason] 19:02:48

Not ShellPoint.

[Chris Nero] 19:02:49

Hold on.

[Chris Nero] 19:02:52

Let me see if I have it here.

[Chris Nero] 19:02:57

See, I got all these transcripts,

[Chris Nero] 19:03:04

Let me see…

[Chris Nero] 19:03:15

Oh, and you're 56 apps!

[Chris Nero] 19:03:19

I sent those.

[Chris Nero] 19:03:23

I'll show you… yes.

[Jason] 19:03:24

With the package?

[Jason] 19:03:26

Yeah.

[Chris Nero] 19:03:28

Yes, yes, yes.

[Jason] 19:03:32

It's probably not a bad habit to, every time you send a package in,

[Jason] 19:03:36

to keep sending the… those… that part of the credentials in, correct?

[Jason] 19:03:40

I mean…

[Chris Nero] 19:03:41

Yes.

[Jason] 19:03:47

Let's

[Chris Nero] 19:03:49

I gotta show you, I have to… you guys are gonna have to bear with me. Let me find it, because it's in my file.

[Jason] 19:04:03

There's still a lot of disability.

[Jason] 19:04:19

Just out of curiosity, um, Chris, while you're looking for that stuff, I just wanted to ask the group,

[Jason] 19:04:25

something… because I know Nicole made a comment a few days ago about the trust being closed.

[Jason] 19:04:32

Does anybody in the group know who monitors

[Jason] 19:04:35

Trust accounts at banks.

[Jason] 19:04:41

from a… from a macro level.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:41

Um…

[damone johnson] 19:04:45

Uh, who's that?

[Chris Nero] 19:04:45

Where were you at, Nicole?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:04:48

They sent it that the military, naval, something?

[Jason] 19:04:48

I'm…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:04:52

novel, whatever. Maybe.

[Jason] 19:04:55

Well, I'm not asking for maybes. Does anybody know definitively?

[damone johnson] 19:04:59

No. No.

[Nicole Pacheco] 19:05:00

Nope.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:02

No, no, what I'm asking is…

[Chris Nero] 19:05:04

What bank?

[Jason] 19:05:05

No, it's… no, just… I'm not asking about banks, I'm asking trust accounts in particular, so it doesn't really matter which bank it is.

[Nicole Pacheco] 19:05:06

Truist.

[Jason] 19:05:12

But trust accounts in general.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:12

No, I thought you were talking about Nicole.

[Jason] 19:05:15

Well, Nicole, I just brought up an example, because…

[Jason] 19:05:18

She just recently talked about her trust account that got closed from inactivity. That's…

[Chris Nero] 19:05:19

She got clothes.

[Jason] 19:05:23

that's more of a bank, you know, policy, but they're answering to someone else.

[Jason] 19:05:27

Or some other entity above… above them.

[Jason] 19:05:31

Um, but…

[Jason] 19:05:33

Nobody… does anybody know specifically?

[Nicole Pacheco] 19:05:36

I don't know, I just thought about sending a letter to the legal department.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:41

What's your question, Jason, though?

[Chris Nero] 19:05:43

I don't get it.

[Jason] 19:05:45

Who? Which entity monitors trust accounts?

[Jason] 19:05:48

around the world.

[Jason] 19:05:51

In general?

[Chris Nero] 19:05:51

Well, that's several… that's gonna be several different…

[Chris Nero] 19:05:56

companies. That could be NCIS, I know that.

[Jason] 19:06:00

Well, that's… that's military.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:03

Well, you know everybody's under military.

[Jason] 19:06:06

Correct. Yep. So I just… a lot of people don't know… don't know that, so…

[Jason] 19:06:12

it kind of puts a… again, another… forget about a flagged account,

[Jason] 19:06:16

But it puts a microscope

[Jason] 19:06:18

So, when you're doing things…

[Jason] 19:06:21

You have to be, you know, very particular and know what the hell you're doing.

[Jason] 19:06:26

So, so, you know, you're not…

[Jason] 19:06:29

you know, caught up or thrown for a loop.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:34

Well, the most simplest thing that I wanted to…

[Chris Nero] 19:06:39

educate everybody on…

[Chris Nero] 19:06:41

was the 1099 process.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:43

That, you can get in trouble.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:49

You would have never got anything back from the blank.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:52

or still be operating.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:55

if that was the case.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:57

You guys agree with that?

[Jason] 19:07:01

Yeah, if we would have filled them out wrong or whatnot.

[damone johnson] 19:07:01

Yeah.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:04

Yes, I think I found it. Hold on, guys.

[Jason] 19:07:11

Yeah, because a lot of people were, um…

[Jason] 19:07:13

we're following that up, the other girl, what's the, um…

[Jason] 19:07:17

Can't think of her name off the top.

[Nicole Pacheco] 19:07:20

Daphne?

[Chris Nero] 19:07:20

Hemory?

[Jason] 19:07:21

Starts with a K.

[Jason] 19:07:23

Oh, Christina Wilson?

[Jason] 19:07:26

Um, a lot of folks…

[Chris Nero] 19:07:26

Yeah, I don't have it… I don't…

[Chris Nero] 19:07:29

Listen, I don't have anything negative to say about anybody, other than…

[Chris Nero] 19:07:34

Um,

[Chris Nero] 19:07:39

the methods that are out there

[Chris Nero] 19:07:46

should never…

[Chris Nero] 19:07:48

be put out into the public.

[Jason] 19:07:53

Yeah, but a lot of… a lot of people that use… that followed some of her stuff, though, they… they were flagged fraudulent filings.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:53

That…

[Chris Nero] 19:07:59

And she did not… and I… we had this talk,

[Chris Nero] 19:08:04

I told you…

[Chris Nero] 19:08:06

I don't have a… I don't have a…

[Chris Nero] 19:08:08

beef with her? What I have a beef about with everybody out there,

[Chris Nero] 19:08:13

is that they're… they're putting information out

[Chris Nero] 19:08:18

And these people are not educated.

[Jason] 19:08:21

Right.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:23

M. M…

[Chris Nero] 19:08:24

Because they're not educated,

[Chris Nero] 19:08:27

They may not know how to defend themselves,

[Chris Nero] 19:08:32

And that's a problem.

[Jason] 19:08:34

Yeah, and… and just so everyone knows also, like, um…

[Jason] 19:08:38

after I found out, you know, that the NCIS

[Jason] 19:08:41

when we were doing that other stuff, Chris, too, um, and when I was… I just opened up a regular bank account with… for my daughter, and I was with, uh, a banker who was, um…

[Jason] 19:08:51

She was like, uh, an examiner.

[Jason] 19:08:54

you know, on the public side of things,

[Jason] 19:08:57

And she… shh…

[Jason] 19:08:59

she was kind of mentioning some things to me.

[Jason] 19:09:02

about some of the stuff on how the trust accounts work.

[Jason] 19:09:07

So, I was just more so sharing some of that information for the group, so they understand, you know, just so everyone, you gotta really…

[Jason] 19:09:15

understand this stuff and banking, because…

[Jason] 19:09:18

The good thing about Chris, about when you were sending that stuff out in the Creditor Academy at that time,

[Chris Nero] 19:09:24

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Jason] 19:09:25

Which… which feels like 10 years ago.

[Jason] 19:09:28

Um, based on, you know, everything we know about

[Jason] 19:09:32

you know, Creditor Academy and everything else that's going on, but…

[Jason] 19:09:35

The good thing about the stuff that you are putting up,

[Jason] 19:09:38

Nobody could… nobody would be able to figure out.

[Jason] 19:09:43

Most likely. I mean, maybe one person.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:46

No, no, I get it. No, believe me…

[Chris Nero] 19:09:51

Um,

[Chris Nero] 19:09:52

We had that conversation.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:54

And ironically, you were one of the only few that caught a lot of the stuff that I was doing.

[Jason] 19:10:01

Yeah, yeah, because… because I have, uh, one guy, I think I told you, that's having some…

[Chris Nero] 19:10:04

I see it right now.

[Jason] 19:10:06

I had some stuff, you know, that the guy in Oklahoma that's having some problems with that one judge…

[Jason] 19:10:11

Um, on a small mortgage, uh,

[Jason] 19:10:14

case, or a foreclosure case,

[Jason] 19:10:16

He, um… he did…

[Chris Nero] 19:10:16

Yeah.

[Jason] 19:10:19

He did a transaction with a foreign grantors trust.

[Jason] 19:10:23

Uh, and his banker, private banker EIN.

[Jason] 19:10:26

And he got, um, you know, he got, like, $250,000.

[Jason] 19:10:30

Um, wire to his account and all that stuff.

[Jason] 19:10:34

But it was completely different than what Christina Wilson was telling everyone out there.

[Jason] 19:10:39

Um,

[Jason] 19:10:41

So, I just… but he… he really gets into the accounting side of things, and he really tries to figure things out.

[Jason] 19:10:49

Which I think very few people…

[Jason] 19:10:51

a lot of people in that Kim Marie group…

[Jason] 19:10:53

Again, we're not… we're not saying anything bad about anybody, but…

[Jason] 19:10:57

the reality is, people are just…

[Jason] 19:11:00

Like, it's like a plagiarism-type thing. They're just copying, right? They're not really trying to understand how the private and the public operate.

[Jason] 19:11:08

independently and siloed from each other.

[Jason] 19:11:10

And when you… and when you start, you know, fucking around with accounts and stuff… definitely trust accounts…

[Jason] 19:11:17

It's probably not gonna end well.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:20

Well, I mean…

[Chris Nero] 19:11:24

I think when everything is said and done…

[Chris Nero] 19:11:27

I'm still looking, guys, for my fae.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:31

Um…

[Jason] 19:11:31

Yeah.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:33

I think that what's, you know, everybody needs to be… this is why I tell you, when you… when this happens for you,

[Chris Nero] 19:11:41

You can't show it, man.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:44

No matter how much…

[Chris Nero] 19:11:47

there's something that I told you about that goes back to the Ernie Trust

[Chris Nero] 19:11:53

Trust has been around forever.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:55

There's, like, a 1300…

[Chris Nero] 19:11:58

Um, it's like ancient trust law that I remember reading.

[Chris Nero] 19:12:03

And you… that's the only reason they can kill you.

[Chris Nero] 19:12:09

Legitimately.

[Chris Nero] 19:12:12

is because you can… if you… if you bring the two worlds together,

[Chris Nero] 19:12:18

you break the mirror, and everything can collapse.

[Chris Nero] 19:12:25

Let me see if I have it here…

[Jason] 19:12:26

Yeah, and Chris, the way he was even telling me…

[Jason] 19:12:28

Um, you know, when he… because when he got that original $250,000 in credits,

[Jason] 19:12:35

posted into the… into his trust.

[Chris Nero] 19:12:37

Yeah.

[Jason] 19:12:37

It… he said it was very complicated.

[Jason] 19:12:40

Uh, because what he did was, he took… he… he… they had a loan,

[Jason] 19:12:45

structured to buy this, uh, to buy this land.

[Jason] 19:12:49

And the banks… they made it, like,

[Jason] 19:12:54

It was so hard to do. It was so complicated, but he said he, you know, he figured it out.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:00

Okay, so look, guys.

[Jason] 19:13:00

You know…

[Chris Nero] 19:13:04

This is… I did this one.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:09

In 2023.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:17

This is the OID.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:20

This was the… this paid off Shellpoint Mortgage.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:25

Can you guys… is that…

[Jason] 19:13:25

Wait, yeah, I can't… oh, now you can see it. Wait, for the 1.6?

[Jason] 19:13:31

Oh, that's 3?

[Chris Nero] 19:13:31

No, this is… this is another one of my properties.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:35

Do you see the brackets?

[Jason] 19:13:38

$3.99, uh…

[Jason] 19:13:39

Kind of. Kimberly, can you see it?

[kimberlybyrd] 19:13:43

I can't see it, but he went off. He went offline.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:43

You see the brackets?

[Jason] 19:13:46

Oh, he did? Oh, it froze for me.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:47

Hold on. I went out.

[kimberlybyrd] 19:13:48

Yeah, I can't see it.

[kimberlybyrd] 19:13:51

Yeah, same thing.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:54

Okay, I'm gonna blow it up.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:56

Do you see the brackets on the United States Treasury?

[kimberlybyrd] 19:14:01

No, it's kind of like the lights… okay, wait a minute, hold up.

[Jason] 19:14:02

No.

[kimberlybyrd] 19:14:04

Stop. So I see the brackets on the zip code.

[Chris Nero] 19:14:08

Yes.

[Chris Nero] 19:14:10

That's what made it foreign, guys.

[Chris Nero] 19:14:17

And you know… yeah, and you know who… and you know… and you know who… who blacked it out? They did.

[Jason] 19:14:17

I don't see the brackets around…

[kimberlybyrd] 19:14:19

It's around the zip code.

[Chris Nero] 19:14:25

This is the other one I did, and I have their 10.

[Chris Nero] 19:14:28

You see Shell Point Mortgage?

[kimberlybyrd] 19:14:31

Uh-huh, I see it.

[Jason] 19:14:33

Fairpoint Mortgage Servicing.

[Chris Nero] 19:14:33

You guys see it?

[Jason] 19:14:36

Oh, they added the brackets?

[Chris Nero] 19:14:36

Yes. And do you…

[Chris Nero] 19:14:38

No, this… I did this!

[Jason] 19:14:42

Oh, you added it, okay?

[Chris Nero] 19:14:44

Yeah, I did it, because it's foreign.

[Chris Nero] 19:14:46

But do you see, um, their tin?

[Jason] 19:14:52

Um, yeah, in the upper left, 52.

[Jason] 19:14:55

32?

[Chris Nero] 19:14:55

No, that's the… that's the United States Treasury!

[kimberlybyrd] 19:14:57

Oh.

[Jason] 19:15:04

52? Something?

[Chris Nero] 19:15:06

Yeah.

[Chris Nero] 19:15:08

See?

[Chris Nero] 19:15:11

I did this one.

[Chris Nero] 19:15:13

With my own hand.

[Chris Nero] 19:15:15

Of course, the brackets, but we were using the corona.

[Chris Nero] 19:15:24

This is the one we did. Now, look at this. You see how I… how we wrote in 2023?

[Jason] 19:15:33

Yeah?

[kimberlybyrd] 19:15:33

Yes.

[Chris Nero] 19:15:35

That was by hand.

[Jason] 19:15:36

By the way, what are you referring to as the corona? Is that a symbol?

[Chris Nero] 19:15:41

No, that's the corona, um…

[Chris Nero] 19:15:44

um… typewriter.

[Jason] 19:15:47

Why do you call it the corona? Is that the… is that the brand of the typewriter or something?

[Chris Nero] 19:15:50

Yeah.

[kimberlybyrd] 19:15:51

Yeah.

[Jason] 19:15:51

Does everyone know that on the… in the group? Because…

[kimberlybyrd] 19:15:54

That's old school.

[Nicole Pacheco] 19:15:54

Yes. It's vint… yeah, vintage.

[Jason] 19:15:57

Okay. Um…

[Chris Nero] 19:15:58

Now, look at here. Here's the other… here's… here's… here's their brackets.

[Jason] 19:16:00

I was like, what the fuck is he talking about?

[Jason] 19:16:05

Oh, those are beautiful.

[kimberlybyrd] 19:16:05

Heh

[kimberlybyrd] 19:16:07

Okay.

[Jason] 19:16:08

beautiful brackets.

[Chris Nero] 19:16:10

Okay, now…

[Chris Nero] 19:16:12

Thanks, Jason. But…

[Chris Nero] 19:16:16

I know you're just mocking me. But anyhow…

[Chris Nero] 19:16:18

Um, there's the other brackets. This is on the property.

[Jason] 19:16:30

Well, because the typewriter can't do the brackets?

[Chris Nero] 19:16:32

That's right!

[Jason] 19:16:33

So, well, could you at least… could you at least use the ruler?

[kimberlybyrd] 19:16:39

Ooh!

[Chris Nero] 19:16:41

No, Jason.

[Chris Nero] 19:16:43

This is why I stopped using the corona.

[Chris Nero] 19:16:48

Because I was like, why…

[Chris Nero] 19:16:50

I was having my son-in-law…

[Chris Nero] 19:16:54

Type it in there, and then I'll be like, you can't put freaking brackets?!

[Chris Nero] 19:16:58

Fuck this, I'll do it myself!

[Chris Nero] 19:17:00

And I did it, and I… we mailed it out, and then it paid it off, it paid Shellpoint off!

[Jason] 19:17:08

They said the check right to them?

[Chris Nero] 19:17:08

You know where I got these?

[Chris Nero] 19:17:10

You know, alright, yes, you know where I got this from?

[Chris Nero] 19:17:14

Faye!

[Chris Nero] 19:17:16

Hey, they assigned it to faith!

[Chris Nero] 19:17:19

No…

[james] 19:17:20

Are you talking about face servicing?

[Chris Nero] 19:17:22

Yes!

[Chris Nero] 19:17:25

Yes.

[Chris Nero] 19:17:28

And now I got Fay on the ropes!

[Chris Nero] 19:17:31

I'm gonna show you why.

[james] 19:17:35

I got a big problem with them.

[Chris Nero] 19:17:38

Oh, they're so easy.

[Chris Nero] 19:17:40

Hold on. I'm gonna show you what they sent me back.

[Chris Nero] 19:17:45

They sent me all this, because, see, I sent them my Form 56,

[Chris Nero] 19:17:50

F?

[Chris Nero] 19:17:54

You see that?

[Chris Nero] 19:17:57

56?

[Chris Nero] 19:18:02

I'm gonna fill all these out for you guys.

[Chris Nero] 19:18:05

But…

[Chris Nero] 19:18:14

I just happen to have the originals!

[Chris Nero] 19:18:23

And I said a debt validation to them.

[Chris Nero] 19:18:28

And…

[Chris Nero] 19:18:31

I'm gonna show you what they sent me back.

[Chris Nero] 19:18:45

You know, what was interesting when they sent me that back?

[Chris Nero] 19:18:50

Um…

[Chris Nero] 19:18:51

My trust was on there.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:08

You know, the thing about it is I got so many things that…

[Jason] 19:19:13

Did you send a C on that?

[Jason] 19:19:16

account?

[Chris Nero] 19:19:17

Okay, so Faye sends me this back.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:20

After I do debt validation.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:23

of course, I bought it with my other LLC called Capella.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:27

So, they're like… so they say, Dear Capella, Chris Nero,

[Chris Nero] 19:19:32

See that?

[kimberlybyrd] 19:19:33

Mm-hmm.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:35

Okay.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:37

But I'm going to show you what's interesting.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:40

I'm gonna show you what's really interesting. Now, this came from them.

[Chris Nero] 19:19:49

They sent me all the notes, everything, you know how they do it, they sent all the stuff you sign?

[Chris Nero] 19:19:56

But here…

[Chris Nero] 19:19:59

is the most interesting.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:11

Here it is.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:18

See, they send you everything and act like that's what you need.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:22

Like, this is everything?

[Chris Nero] 19:20:24

You see, I got the min number?

[Chris Nero] 19:20:28

that doesn't exist anymore.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:34

It doesn't exist anymore. They're done!

[Chris Nero] 19:20:37

They're done. I'm about to squash them.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:42

But it gets even better.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:51

Because they assigned it to…

[Chris Nero] 19:20:56

Merge!

[Chris Nero] 19:20:58

You see that?

[Jason] 19:21:00

Murz?

[Chris Nero] 19:21:01

MERS!

[Chris Nero] 19:21:04

And that MIN number, when I called into merge, doesn't exist anymore.

[Jason] 19:21:10

Because it's paid off?

[Chris Nero] 19:21:12

Yep.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:18

But…

[Chris Nero] 19:21:21

That's not the kicker.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:28

So what I'm showing you, in other words, guys, is this is how you can pay

[Chris Nero] 19:21:33

Well, not pay, but you can dis…

[Chris Nero] 19:21:35

extinguish your debt.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:44

Now, at some point, I'm gonna have to take them into

[Chris Nero] 19:21:48

Because that's just the way it always goes.

[Chris Nero] 19:21:50

But I'll beat them in there.

[Jason] 19:21:54

I think… but did you file a 1099-C on that also?

[Chris Nero] 19:21:59

Yes.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:04

Hold up, because I want to show you something.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:15

And this…

[Chris Nero] 19:22:19

was what I recorded.

[Chris Nero] 19:22:22

You see who the grantor is, and the beneficiary?