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Chris Nero Meeting -October 10, 2025

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[iPhone] 18:25:52

Sure. Jason. Borrow, aka Tom.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:25:56

Yeah. Tommy.

[iPhone] 18:25:59

Hey, did you guys! So… Let's wait a couple more minutes for Kim.

[iPhone] 18:26:04

But did you, uh, did any of you guys get to listen to the second, uh.

[iPhone] 18:26:09

Video I sent on Divine?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:26:17

And halfway is… it's a long video, so… and I have…

[iPhone] 18:26:19

Yeah, when you get to the park, when you get to… when you get to the part where the… The black guy is, you know, screaming at the vine? That's… that's the role being played by Ibarra.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:26:31

Oh, I'm not there yet.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:26:34

I have repeat that, the part that I had listened to, I have repeated, like, 10 times already. I've been like, what?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:26:40

Why, wait, I have to go back!

[iPhone] 18:26:40

So, when you get to that point, you'll just hear, like, a small voice.

[iPhone] 18:26:45

The role is now being played by Jason Ibarra.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:26:49

I bet you it's really good, then. Must be really funny.

[iPhone] 18:26:52

No, it really is, and he's… and you know, at the very end, he tells… Because… He's right.

[iPhone] 18:27:00

He tells… he tells Divine, look, you told me… to interact.

[iPhone] 18:27:07

And I love you, brother. I love you, Patrick.

[iPhone] 18:27:12

And, you know, Patrick never says. Like, if people tell him thank you, he'll never say you're welcome.

[iPhone] 18:27:19

Because she doesn't believe in being welcome, or any of that stuff.

[iPhone] 18:27:24

But… I do like it, and he came back later, and he said, you know, he stuck up for him because.

[iPhone] 18:27:32

You know, Tom… was buffering divine.

[iPhone] 18:27:37

And, uh, but I think that it's great… that you have… freelance thinking.

[iPhone] 18:27:45

And I've said it many, many times, and I'll continue to say it.

[iPhone] 18:27:50

I don't know everything. I just don't. And the things that I do know.

[iPhone] 18:27:56

It's because I went through them. And, uh.

[iPhone] 18:28:02

You know, we do the best we can. And when you get to be… experience, it's because you've been through it.

[iPhone] 18:28:13

And you got… you have to keep evolving. So, everything that I put out there, guys.

[iPhone] 18:28:22

If you read… And you want to take the initiative.

[iPhone] 18:28:28

then I'll, you know, I'll back you up, like I'm… Doing with Reyna, or Kim.

[iPhone] 18:28:35

Or when Luke… is Luke here?

[luke ] 18:28:39

Yep, I'm listening. I'm here

[iPhone] 18:28:42

Or whatever it is, when you guys are ready.

[iPhone] 18:28:44

to do whatever we've discussed, because every one of you is… you know, individually, whether it's the utilities.

[iPhone] 18:28:51

I put something out there for the utilities. Uh… Because it's a hoax!

[iPhone] 18:29:01

Fraud has been perpetrated everywhere in the public. And it has a right to, because it's all based on presumptions.

[iPhone] 18:29:09

Because everything in the… And the public is fictioned!

[iPhone] 18:29:15

And it's up to us to do the checks and balances.

[iPhone] 18:29:20

Because those are our children.

[iPhone] 18:29:25

And quite frankly, the reason we're in this situation is because.

[iPhone] 18:29:29

We turned our back on our children. And let them out to play!

[iPhone] 18:29:38

And we never came back.

[iPhone] 18:29:43

And so, you can't get upset. You have to stay emotionless.

[iPhone] 18:29:50

And then do your checks and balances, because that's what it means to be balanced.

[iPhone] 18:29:54

That's what it means when, you know, the Christ said he washed your… he washed his… servant's feet, he's… It's because you gotta come in like adapter.

[iPhone] 18:30:05

In the fiction, you're adapter! And they're your servants!

[iPhone] 18:30:11

So you come in low! And then if you want to get the remedy, you gotta… you gotta step up, stand up!

[iPhone] 18:30:20

And you become the creditor. And we're allowing these promissory notes.

[iPhone] 18:30:28

We are allowing these credit cards. Because when you sign a credit card, all you do is you just want that credit.

[iPhone] 18:30:36

And then you just scroll through 100 pieces of paper.

[iPhone] 18:30:41

What the hell is there?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:30:47

You're breaking out, Chris.

[iPhone] 18:30:51

And then, you know, you're on the hook.

[iPhone] 18:30:57

So, we have to take responsibility. And everything that I put…

[iPhone] 18:31:09

Credit cards?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:31:15

You… you're breaking out, Chris, again.

[iPhone] 18:31:17

Are you gonna leave? Hold up, I'm gonna… Very good.

[Chris Nero] 18:31:19

Dad, you

[iPhone] 18:31:26

You build…

[iPhone] 18:31:38

How about now?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:31:44

Stay a little bit. There you go.

[iPhone] 18:31:47

Alright, how about now?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:31:50

Good to go.

[iPhone] 18:31:53

All these government places, now they have all these things over… But…

[iPhone] 18:32:03

I used to really appreciate… thank you for…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:32:13

You went back to, um, breaking up, Chris, and you froze too.

[iPhone] 18:32:22

Maybe… Just don't… Bones…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:32:35

Maybe you want to close, uh, hang up and call back in again?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:32:39

Because we can now understand what you're saying.

[iPhone] 18:33:28

Can you guys hear me now?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:33:31

Yes, you will gonna have to…

[iPhone] 18:33:34

All right, so… Alright, so…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:33:34

repeat everything again.

[Nicole Pacheco] 18:33:49

He's

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:33:54

Now, I just mute it.

[iPhone] 18:33:55

How about that? Oh, nice. All right.

[Chris Nero] 18:33:56

There we go. There we go, now we can hear you.

[iPhone] 18:34:01

Hold up, I'm walking into the building.

[iPhone] 18:34:07

All right. So, what I'm saying is that everything that I put out there, including when I was in.

[iPhone] 18:34:15

In prison that I did have my own hand.

[iPhone] 18:34:19

I don't know if you guys could see that.

[iPhone] 18:34:32

Come on, let me go through the detector.

[iPhone] 18:34:40

Alright, good.

[iPhone] 18:34:44

I'm just thinking perhaps some keys…

[iPhone] 18:35:03

Yeah, yeah. Hold up, good.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:35:11

Your connection is still very bad, Chris.

[iPhone] 18:35:23

Oh, roll it up.

[iPhone] 18:35:35

All right.

[iPhone] 18:35:42

Guys…

[iPhone] 18:35:49

Hello?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:35:51

Still breaking up.

[iPhone] 18:35:55

Okay, how about now?

[iPhone] 18:36:04

Now? Okay, so what I was saying was that everything that you… each one of you have issues with is all out there.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:36:05

Yeah, go ahead.

[iPhone] 18:36:14

Brainer's putting things together so that, you know, it flows, but… Um, all the laws are out there. There's no excuse for anyone.

[iPhone] 18:36:23

That whether you want to do utilities, or… it's all about debt validation. Where did it come from?

[iPhone] 18:36:29

How did they get paid? Where's the money? What is the voucher? All that's on there.

[iPhone] 18:36:34

Well, didn't I just send one? The last one's about fraud?

[iPhone] 18:36:40

What was the last one I sent out there?

[iPhone] 18:36:42

It had to do with the fraud of utilities. Did I put that one out there yet?

[iPhone] 18:36:48

Guys?

[iPhone] 18:36:53

Hello.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:36:59

The last one was the one for, uh, the back-end one.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:37:03

That you send out, and uh…

[Jason Ibarra] 18:37:06

No, it's educational.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:37:07

Education or send… yeah.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:37:09

The educational conditions are certain.

[iPhone] 18:37:09

Yeah, but… Did it have to do with… did it have to do with the utilities?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:37:12

Oh, quiet title. quiet title.

[iPhone] 18:37:21

Hold on.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:37:22

Quiet title.

[iPhone] 18:37:26

Okay?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:37:28

Yeah, that was the last one you sent. It says educational, though.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:37:34

But I know that's for educational purposes. conditional acceptance, quiet title.

[iPhone] 18:37:38

Yeah, so I'm always gonna put it for educational purposes so that.

[iPhone] 18:37:41

you know, I protect everybody.

[iPhone] 18:37:50

I'm gonna send one out here shortly that has to do with… utilities, specifically for all the utilities.

[iPhone] 18:37:57

the conception, why it… fraud, energy is free.

[iPhone] 18:38:05

Uh, if you want to… if you want to go down that path, and you wanna… you wanna… You wanna, uh… I don't wanna say fight for it, but if you want to educate somebody.

[iPhone] 18:38:15

And that other realm, then you may. There's no reason why, uh, that you can't challenge your utilities.

[iPhone] 18:38:24

With debt validation. We are… here to keep our children in line.

[iPhone] 18:38:32

Uh, we are here to make sure that the children we created, called corporations.

[iPhone] 18:38:40

Um… They're dead people.

[iPhone] 18:38:45

And we… it's like the movie of, I see dead people.

[iPhone] 18:38:49

Everywhere. And we need to be able to… uh, take the responsibility as the government to… a step up to the plate.

[iPhone] 18:39:00

And… and find out… who's who, and who's doing what. Why wouldn't you want to?

[iPhone] 18:39:06

Don't you want to know where your energy's coming from, or the utility is what?

[iPhone] 18:39:12

are transmitted utility. Who's the transmitting utility? You're the transmit… not you, but… your straw man on your UCC1s has transmitted utility.

[iPhone] 18:39:21

So what do you think all that electricity and gas and water's coming from? You're transmitting utility.

[iPhone] 18:39:27

That's where they call themselves utility companies. Okay, so you know that. Now let's keep on asking questions. Where do those utilities come from? Why are you a utility? All these are questions that you need to ask yourself.

[iPhone] 18:39:44

So, um… If you guys have a chance to read all that, is there… does… while I was doing all this, does anybody have any questions?

[iPhone] 18:39:53

Uh, that may come up.

[iPhone] 18:40:00

You guys have to make them up? random…

[iPhone] 18:40:08

Did I lose you guys?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:40:12

Oh, you're there.

[iPhone] 18:40:13

Hello? Does anybody have questions that are random?

[iPhone] 18:40:18

that have to do with court cases. 1099s, because the 1099s are all very important.

[iPhone] 18:40:26

when you're doing business. And what we really need to do.

[iPhone] 18:40:30

is we need to have some sort of a Zoom workshop.

[iPhone] 18:40:34

Where we can get on, and we can do, um… You know, like a screen thing, right?

[iPhone] 18:40:43

So, once Raina puts this together, maybe, you know, all the information that maybe we can do something like that. What do you guys think?

[luke ] 18:40:52

I like it.

[Nicole Pacheco] 18:40:53

I agree

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:40:54

I like it here.

[iPhone] 18:40:55

Okay, so… so let's… let's… what I'd like to do… Yes, let's start… once we get the full package that you have inside there.

[iPhone] 18:41:05

Uh, we'll start on… What do you guys want to start on? Utilities? Uh, credit cards, mortgages?

[iPhone] 18:41:13

You guys need to take a vote on what you want to talk about first. We can do everything, and it's pretty similar.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:41:14

Well,

[Jason Ibarra] 18:41:19

We… we should do… We should do the car… yeah, more polls, we need more poles.

[Nicole Pacheco] 18:41:19

Let's do a poll.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:41:23

Okay, I'll do that.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:41:23

Um, what about… what about… What about a car? Since, um… We're gonna be buying… we're gonna all buy a Hummer next week.

[Nicole Pacheco] 18:41:29

Yes. Yep, come in.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:41:36

My opinion, I would say, we should concentrate, like, um…

[iPhone] 18:41:36

Jason.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:41:40

like, at home, you know, like, utilities and things for the house first.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:41:45

And they move out of there.

[iPhone] 18:41:48

Okay, I'm gonna leave that between all of you guys, because whatever it is, it's almost going to be all the same.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:41:50

Yeah, I will do…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:41:53

I will do the poll to see where everybody is and what they want to do first, and then we'll take it from there.

[iPhone] 18:41:58

Here's what I… here's what I think we should do.

[iPhone] 18:42:01

Uh, Raina, when you're… when you're done putting your fantastic work together.

[iPhone] 18:42:06

And you have everything aligned. Then, whether it's tomorrow, the next day, whatever.

[iPhone] 18:42:14

or a week, or whatever you're gonna need. Then right after that, let's hold a meeting.

[iPhone] 18:42:19

where everybody can be there. And I'm not on the run, we're walking around, you know, because I gotta go to the Division II right now. I mean, this is what I do, guys.

[iPhone] 18:42:30

Um, and… and then let's… Let's talk about how… We're either going to, you know, how are we going to take care of utilities, credit cards, it's all this… Same thing. Uh, end of your… and then we can…

[iPhone] 18:42:43

combine how we use the 1099s, because. There's no reason at this point that.

[iPhone] 18:42:49

The debt validation, you don't really need to do 1099s, but the 1099s are prevalent on other things that we can talk about as well.

[iPhone] 18:42:57

But if you guys are tired of paying your… Your utilities, then, you know, let's focus on debt validation for utilities, or your credit card.

[iPhone] 18:43:07

Each… anybody that has a credit card can do a debt validation for your credit card.

[iPhone] 18:43:12

And then you can get, you know, your money back and your credits.

[iPhone] 18:43:17

And yes, you can. I mean, you're just… you have to just educate yourself. I put all that out there.

[iPhone] 18:43:22

Everybody out there that has an issue with whatever they're working on should pull, like, okay, there's a credit card one, there's a mortgage one.

[iPhone] 18:43:29

There's a court case one. Uh, it's all the same process. You're doing the same 10 steps.

[iPhone] 18:43:36

It's… it's the 10 plagues.

[iPhone] 18:43:42

And you're taking them down in the public. And then you can go into any courtroom. I put that assumption.

[iPhone] 18:43:49

where the adapter's debts have become due. And I put all those case laws, because I was gonna take all these people.

[iPhone] 18:43:56

that I took down on those opposite deals and put them in the… And that fort… and take them down, and this is how you… we do it inside of a courtroom.

[iPhone] 18:44:06

Okay? But for now.

[iPhone] 18:44:11

And I wanted… I just wanted to hold the meeting maybe a little premature.

[iPhone] 18:44:16

But I needed to make sure that we were all, you know, still… Moving along, and you know, we… again, we need to get… credentials for those who don't have it, and those who may need help, then let us know.

[iPhone] 18:44:31

Um, uh, but anyhow… I'm gonna… I'm gonna let you guys, uh, go into the meeting a little bit more in depth. I gotta go into Division 2.

[iPhone] 18:44:40

And, uh, Reyna and Ibarra and everybody. You guys need to start talking about… remember.

[iPhone] 18:44:47

All we got is what we have, guys. Everybody else is gone for a reason.

[iPhone] 18:44:53

And we need to take care of each other so that we can get to that same goal.

[iPhone] 18:44:59

I'm willing to walk. enter the courtroom, I'm willing to do whatever it takes to back up. I'm the guy that's taking the assignments.

[iPhone] 18:45:08

We're here so that we can educate. and be informed so that we can take the helm.

[iPhone] 18:45:14

ourselves, and be our own kings, our own queens, our own masters, whatever you want to call yourself, your own man, your own woman.

[iPhone] 18:45:20

And then, once we all get to that point, we can start creating commercial instruments between each other.

[iPhone] 18:45:27

And that's another… that's another, uh, story. But yes, this, you know, we can… we can… we can go in, and we can do a car. I mean, I'm not… I'm not a… I'll… I'll even tape it.

[iPhone] 18:45:38

I'll tape it, I'll do something this week and tape it.

[iPhone] 18:45:41

So that you guys can see how I'm gonna do it, alright?

[iPhone] 18:45:44

And then you guys can go do it. If you choose to.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:45:46

That will be better than… That will be… you have, like, a… you have, like, a body cam on?

[iPhone] 18:45:51

What was that, Tom?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:45:58

Bounty hunter in Ashen.

[iPhone] 18:46:00

I'm not trying… I'm not… I'm not… I'm not hiding.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:46:01

like a bot… No, like… like, when you say video, you mean, like, a body cam type?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:46:08

That was serious, actually.

[iPhone] 18:46:08

No, like, like my phone, like, I'm gonna hold my phone, like, when I tape the cops.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:46:11

I don't think it's talk with. We got 70 degrees, 70%, I mean?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:46:16

Oh, come on, Kimberly!

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:46:20

Hey there, how are you? I'm sorry. Thank you, Jason, for telling me that.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:46:22

Unbelievable. Put yourself on mute.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:46:28

Wow.

[iPhone] 18:46:29

Jason, stop. Did you hear what Jason said he was gonna save that wow for when a UFO landed, but now he's using it?

[iPhone] 18:46:37

Jesus Christ, Lincoln.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:46:37

Well, the UFO did kind of land, actually.

[iPhone] 18:46:43

Okay, so listen, guys, I gotta go into Division II, I'll come back out and enjoy, but I want you guys to interact with each other.

[iPhone] 18:46:51

We need to start forming a bond. that's productive.

[iPhone] 18:46:57

And based on what the information I put out, you… foot breathing out?

[iPhone] 18:47:05

accountable, you know, like a bit. The earlier groups, oh, he just wants to withhold, he doesn't want to share. Okay, so now you be careful what you ask for, because it's all out there.

[iPhone] 18:47:13

All the laws, all the rules, all the statutes, all the Roman stuff that's out there, you can… You gotta… you gotta talk about… and… and everybody needs to work on… Whether it's in 48 hours or 72 hours, when.

[iPhone] 18:47:27

you know, anything that you guys can do to help out Raina, whatever. Reyna, you need to coordinate, whatever. Have you got it, Raina, you got it. It's up to you, but… Everybody needs to work together, because if we're gonna get to that point, and we're not paying your utilities, and you're not paying your mortgage.

[iPhone] 18:47:42

And you're not paying your car. Uh, those are all things that… that we need to be studious about, and know, so that, not just because I'm doing it, but because you know it.

[iPhone] 18:47:53

I'll be back, guys.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:47:57

And we've been here, we'll be here.

[iPhone] 18:47:57

We'll be back.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:47:59

What's… Uh-oh.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:48:02

Okay. Um…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:48:04

Hi, everybody. Again, Kim.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:48:07

Nice to have you back.

[j] 18:48:10

Hello, everybody!

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:48:14

Um, so I will say we can start by…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:48:17

Um, what everybody's working on.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:48:22

Um, we'll start with you, Nicole. If you're working in something?

[Nicole Pacheco] 18:48:26

Yeah, I'm with the packet, um… I think everybody has been sending the packet to Chris.

[Nicole Pacheco] 18:48:33

I don't know if also you're available to see it before I send it, if that's okay with you?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:48:37

Yeah, sure, just send a… send it to me in an email.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:48:41

I'll send you my email.

[Nicole Pacheco] 18:48:43

Okay, yes, please.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:48:44

Yes, and besides that, you're working in anything else with Chris?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:48:48

that you want to talk about?

[Nicole Pacheco] 18:48:49

Um, no, no. Oh, no, not with Chris right now, um, probably eventually.

[Nicole Pacheco] 18:48:55

The other thing is, I still don't have my original birth certificate. I don't know what's taken… Uh, these people so long.

[Nicole Pacheco] 18:49:04

Um, so yeah, I need…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:49:04

I believe there was at one point that Chris says that you don't need the original.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:49:11

Or to be verified, yeah, we can confirm that when you jump back in.

[Nicole Pacheco] 18:49:11

So it can be…

[Nicole Pacheco] 18:49:17

Okay, okay. Well, if I'm… if I don't need the original, then… That'll be great.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:49:18

Um…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:49:19

Yeah, just… just remember…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:49:25

you know, what can I ask them about?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:49:26

Yes, you need an original. Who told you… who said you… you know, why would you not need an original? Explain that.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:49:33

If I remember the last conversation we had with Chris… oh, no, online, yeah, you're right. It is an original, it's not an Apple Seal one that you don't need.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:49:42

That's correct. Okay, good. doesn't… doesn't hurt to get it.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:49:44

Yeah.

[Nicole Pacheco] 18:49:46

Okay, well, still waiting.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:49:50

The app is still in the double authentication. But not necessary. Original?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:49:55

Definitely. Unless you're Kimberly and you're a UFO.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:49:56

Mm-hmm.

[Nicole Pacheco] 18:49:57

Okay.

[Nicole Pacheco] 18:50:04

Is Kimberly a UFO?

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:50:06

Yes, I'm a y-ho.

[j] 18:50:06

generally alone.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:50:10

Oh, man, if anybody can take… Take it. I know Kimberly can take it.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:50:16

I can give it too, so it's good.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:50:19

Well, of course, man, if you… if you can take it, you gotta be able to give it.

[j] 18:50:21

That's the

[Jason Ibarra] 18:50:24

All right, Rena… That's right. Oh.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:50:27

I was trying to defend you, uh, Kimberly.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:50:31

That's right! I can play the dozens now!

[Jason Ibarra] 18:50:32

Trying is the key word. Trying is the same as crying.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:50:32

I appreciate you, Raines.

[j] 18:50:38

She was defending, not trying.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:50:40

That's why it failed!

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:50:41

Too funny.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:50:45

Okay, uh, is anybody else? James, is there anything you want to, um, wanted to speak with us that we…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:50:51

may be able to help?

[james] 18:50:54

No, I'm, uh, actually, when I went to the, uh… Equity Trust today.

[james] 18:51:00

Believe it or not, my phone was not able to take their link to, uh.

[james] 18:51:07

send them my driver's license and a picture of myself.

[james] 18:51:11

And we were on that for…

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:51:12

I think it's their system, James, because our minds wouldn't do it, too. That's their system.

[james] 18:51:16

Is that right? And I said, well, look, why can't I just fax.

[james] 18:51:20

you know, my driver's license and my picture to you.

[james] 18:51:24

You know, oh, and then we have to go through the phone. I'm like, well, it's not working.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:51:24

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

[james] 18:51:27

And she said, oh, I've never had this problem maybe one time in 3 years. I'm like.

[james] 18:51:33

I guess you're the other one from 3 years ago then, huh?

[james] 18:51:36

Because, um… Yeah, so I had a problem with Schwab today, because.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:51:37

Eh?

[james] 18:51:42

First, they say you can put in all the money to your 401K.

[james] 18:51:46

Then they say, oh, you can only do this amount, which is… significantly less.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:51:46

Great.

[james] 18:51:51

So, that's my priority, is get the, uh, equity trust thing set up.

[james] 18:51:57

talk to… talk to Chris about the, uh… the properties, and then get the, uh, certification done.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:51:57

We're all little Jones one. Um, that's the right direction.

[james] 18:52:04

I've been, like I said, I've fallen behind this month because… of, uh, the problem with, uh.

[james] 18:52:10

Fidelity locking up my account for no valid reason.

[james] 18:52:14

So it's really put me behind the eight ball, so… Those are the two things I want to get straightened out, and… Before I concentrate on anything else.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:52:23

I agree. Definitely. I'll go next. I'm actually working on my credentials.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:52:28

Um, I'm waiting for an EIN, but I'm moving forward with the other.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:52:33

documents, I'm going to send those to you, Raina, so you can review them, but they're ready.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:52:37

So…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:52:38

You got it. And I still call, and I didn't know that the government still, uh, still closed.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:52:43

Yeah, they are. They really are. I was hoping that they would send it, but they didn't send it, so… I don't know what to think about them.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:52:52

Yeah,

[j] 18:52:52

Everything's on hold right now.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:52:54

Yes.

[james] 18:52:57

They're not even telling us about the flying saucer.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:52:58

They gotta…

[james] 18:53:00

That's going around the sun.

[Kimberly Byrd] 18:53:02

Right?

[j] 18:53:04

Of course not.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:53:09

Uh, anybody else? Looks? Anything you want to share with us?

[luke ] 18:53:16

I just started using… some of Chris's information.

[luke ] 18:53:21

on the debt validation, on a few unsecured debts.

[luke ] 18:53:26

Of course, they respond with. the credit card agreement, which… is… I mean, there's tons of stuff they didn't disclose, so just experimenting with that process.

[luke ] 18:53:37

Um, seeing where it goes.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:53:39

Did you ask for full disclosure?

[luke ] 18:53:43

Yeah, basically full accounting, the orientation of the money, which obviously we were.

[luke ] 18:53:50

Um, accounting of their books, um… Obviously, they can't answer those questions, because they'd admit to fraud.

[luke ] 18:53:58

I think there… over the years, I'm just… these companies are literally zombie… train to… just be in fraud until the bitter end. I think it all leads to court, it feels like.

[luke ] 18:54:10

Which is okay.

[j] 18:54:11

Well, it's… it's… if you've done something for so long, then it becomes right.

[luke ] 18:54:16

Yeah, there you go, I… Yep, they just… they have, you know, their… They never respond with a signature, or a live person, or no liability.

[j] 18:54:17

Everybody else is nice.

[j] 18:54:25

No, it's just because nobody fights back, and now that you got, like, actual people that are fighting back, they don't know what the hell to do, and it's not even their fault.

[j] 18:54:34

They're trained to do that. Like, my dad says, all of them are trained to do that. They're literally reading off of a script.

[luke ] 18:54:36

Yep.

[j] 18:54:40

And it's crazy, because, like. Like, you'll hear one conversation with somebody, and they sound like they know what the hell they're talking about, and then 2 minutes later, you're talking to somebody.

[luke ] 18:54:41

Yep.

[j] 18:54:49

that has no idea what the heck's going on.

[luke ] 18:54:53

Yeah, I feel like… secret non-disclosure group in the United States just keeps everything secret, and the rest of us.

[luke ] 18:55:02

Yeah. I've actually had… Go ahead.

[j] 18:55:02

Dumb.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:55:04

Well, it's not… No, I was gonna say, Luke, it's not necessarily a secret, it's… It's they think that's the process, so you're trained… you're just a regular employee, I'll be… I'll give you guys a quick example, like, I mean, I was securities licensed.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:55:18

Since 1999, roughly, almost 26 years. I had no idea about any of this until 2-3 years ago, when I started researching.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:55:28

So you could… you guys are basically saying, you know, for 24 years of my career.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:55:34

that I was hiding secrets. I didn't know. And guess what? Even today, I can't… you can't talk about that stuff, because it's two different worlds, so it's… it's what Chris is talking about balance.

[j] 18:55:39

That's a… yeah.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:55:46

You just have to understand the balance, and you have to find the balance, and that's really what he's saying in all that documentation that he's sending in the Word documents the last couple, uh, days.

[j] 18:55:46

Mm-hmm.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:55:55

that you're not… you know, these people… I mean, I've heard, you know, people call them.

[j] 18:55:57

Mm-hmm.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:56:01

you know, there are, you know, retarded. I've heard them say that they're… whatever you want to call it, they're stupid, they're… they're peons, they're… Um, you know, non… whatever, NPCs, you know, so many words for these people.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:56:20

But they're not that. They're just like you and me.

[luke ] 18:56:26

Yeah, and getting to the layer of people that actually are in the know is… I haven't discovered that.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:56:31

You're never gonna get to them. So… you're never gonna get to him. I mean, I'll just… I'll give you guys an example. I… I went, you know, I paid my car payment.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:56:42

65 out of 66 months, I saved the last one, right?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:56:46

And I got it all the way into the president's office of Wells Fargo.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:56:51

This is… this was a couple years ago. Um, to be honest.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:56:56

And, you know, I was talking with the president's office people.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:56:59

And even those people. They're in the president's office, the president of Wells Fargo, supposedly, they call it the president's office.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:57:08

And they just… It's like, the guy literally admitted.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:57:14

There's no money. If I… if I knew how to record a phone conversation at that time, I would have recorded it.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:57:21

But I didn't at that time. He said, you're right, there's no money.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:57:26

Well, what are you gonna go do about it? Basically, he… I mean, that's what he was saying to me.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:57:31

So we're telling you there's no money. What are you gonna go do about it, Mr. Ibarra?

[Jason Ibarra] 18:57:35

they were… they challenged me to balance, basically. And at that point in time, I didn't know what to do.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:57:44

So I just, you know, paid the last payment.

[luke ] 18:57:44

Yeah.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:57:47

I just paid the last payment. So, I just wanted to give that perspective to people, because.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:57:52

When you call into these people, they don't know… they don't… They don't think there's some kind of game against us.

[luke ] 18:57:57

Nope.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:57:59

They don't think that, you know, they don't even know themselves.

[luke ] 18:58:05

Yeah, if they knew this, they'd be doing it too.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:58:09

Exactly, and it's not for the faint of heart, it's not for the weak, but, like, Luke, you said something, you made a comment before, like, oh, unless you're gonna keep going until maybe you gotta go to court.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:58:19

Not necessarily because, really, the court… may not really be the answer there, but, you know, if you look at some of the stuff Chris is talking about.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:58:27

You really just gotta get to the liquidation part.

[luke ] 18:58:30

Yeah, there you go. The private side is… is… the solution.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:58:36

Yeah. Yeah.

[luke ] 18:58:36

I feel like the 1099s, the bonds.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:58:39

Yeah, I was going to say that without the…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:58:42

what you're doing right now doesn't work. Maybe just go with the 1099s.

[luke ] 18:58:48

Yep, making them liable for the taxes, just… I mean, it's our own fault. We have all this… these credits that we're not claiming.

[luke ] 18:58:57

And you just gotta do the paperwork, and that's what… Chris knows, and I can't wait to… you know, take ownership of that part, and… have our credentials.

[luke ] 18:59:07

Do it in honor, do it where I feel like sometimes in this… I, you know, just over the years, people do stuff, and then they're, like, almost scared, where… they don't understand why they're doing it, and if you can understand it and lawfully know.

[luke ] 18:59:22

And have the credentials to do it, then you're… it's… It's a… with a good heart, you know?

[luke ] 18:59:28

And you just do it lawfully, and… yeah.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 18:59:33

I think…

[j] 18:59:34

You make it sound so weird.

[luke ] 18:59:35

I feel like the… What Chris has kind of led us to, though, having the paper trail on the public side leads to the private side.

[luke ] 18:59:43

liquidation and… Um, I could be wrong on that.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:59:49

No, you're dead, you're dead right there. It's about when to go in to the private, when to bring it back to the public.

[luke ] 18:59:53

Yeah.

[Jason Ibarra] 18:59:54

It's exactly how the courts work, and how they're messing with the estate, you know, our estates and our trusts.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:00:00

you know, in Puerto Rico, where… you know, they have to use the territories to be able to play the game of usury on… on us, right?

[luke ] 19:00:09

Yep.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:00:10

Yeah, so you're exactly right. Part of this game, also.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:00:13

it's almost like that balance word again that Chris keeps using, but when to go in and out, and.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:00:19

And that, to be perfectly honest. I think that's probably one of the toughest things to grasp.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:00:26

Um, I think Chris is excellent at it. he's… he knows that inside out, probably better than anyone.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:00:35

Um, and he'll even admit today. with some of the cases he's working on.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:00:41

that are very highly intense and complex. Especially the ones that are, you know, some of these folks that are facing, you know, many, many years in prison.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:00:49

Um, they're… those people are the best. Uh, trickery.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:00:57

So when to go in and out of the public.

[luke ] 19:00:57

Yeah.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:00:59

back to the private, yeah, that's… that's… you… you nailed it right there.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:01:05

I think you're right. I agree with you. That's the art.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:01:10

Yep.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:01:10

I think the paper trail is more if… the more evidence you collect, the better it would be if you have to go to court.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:01:20

Um, to explain that, Rena, because… you should be… you should know exactly how that goes.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:01:28

Yes.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:01:29

Explain it. What you just…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:01:30

Well, what I say… what I say is, you know, like,

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:01:33

Everything you do, like, it's like Chris says, collecting evidence.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:01:38

You know, because the final goal would be liquidate them.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:01:41

You know? But if the…

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:01:43

Yes, I agree.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:01:44

Throughout the process that you do, if they come to some kind of common sense,

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:01:49

And give you what you ask, then, you know, you don't get to that point. But if you have to get to that point, you got all your evidence already.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:01:56

That's where the paper trail comes.

[james] 19:02:12

Well, I got a lot of cases already with… Chris, uh… like, for my foreclosure case that I ended up paying off.

[james] 19:02:22

And then I went to, uh, Steven for the arbitration.

[james] 19:02:28

They didn't show, so we got a default. But now, what we're trying to see is… how to recoup the money for the arbitration.

[james] 19:02:36

Which would be in the private compared to the public.

[james] 19:02:40

So, I've got that, I've got a friend who's in prison.

[james] 19:02:43

who shouldn't be there. He's working on that. more so on the birth certificate.

[james] 19:02:51

So it's kind of a vast array of, like, 6 different things.

[james] 19:02:54

to see how they pan out. I'm really looking forward.

[james] 19:02:58

to see how the, uh… How they're laid out, and what the response is.

[james] 19:03:05

So it's going to be really a diverse answer.

[james] 19:03:08

on a lot of different things. Much more so than, I think, just paying for your electric bill.

[james] 19:03:14

Because we're talking a lot more money. We're talking, you know, probably a million and a half dollars on all this stuff.

[james] 19:03:22

Plus, going after the foreclosure and the fact that.

[james] 19:03:24

They did it basically with fraud. So, going after them in the private.

[james] 19:03:31

Not only with the arbitration, but hopefully. with the, uh… The money that they were paid when they weren't entitled to it, so… Chris is working on all that stuff for me right now, so…

[james] 19:03:43

I think that's going to be really interesting for everybody.

[james] 19:03:46

When it comes to fruition.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:03:50

Keep us posted on that, that sounds very interesting.

[james] 19:03:53

Yeah. Agreed.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:04:00

To anybody else? Kim, you had anything?

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:04:05

Catching up, because I was away, but I'm feverishly… trying to get my credentials done, that's all I'm focusing on this week, along with some other stuff that… other tasks that Chris has given me.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:04:16

So, just trying to make it happen, you know?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:04:21

Okay.

[james] 19:04:22

Kim, are you… are you done? I'm sorry. Kim, are you done with your credentials?

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:04:26

No, not at all. Some things that I'm missing, like my, um, EIN.

[james] 19:04:27

I mean…

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:04:31

for foreign status, and um… my foreign EIN, and… Once I get that, that section, I can… finished and complete. But the other parts, I've done those parts, I just need Raina to look them over so I can begin to send those out.

[james] 19:04:47

I'd really like to go over that with you.

[james] 19:04:49

this week, if it's possible. Because I've got all… I've got all my EINs.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:04:50

Oh, that's… okay.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:04:55

Okay. Oh, with the foreign EIN? Okay, excellent.

[james] 19:04:55

Um, I might be able to help you with that.

[james] 19:04:57

Because I've got all mine. Yeah. It's… it's just… it's just got to be set up with a, uh.

[james] 19:05:05

uh, like, Taiwan, an address from Taiwan, or… Wherever.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:05:10

Yeah, we… with Raina, we… I work with Raina to get it done, and we did that. We were waiting for them to send it to me, but I think Raina just says today that she checked it.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:05:22

And because of the shutdown. you know, nobody's working.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:05:27

The IRS, their IRS is not the government.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:05:30

I know, but we figured maybe that was a connection as to why.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:05:35

then some of the calls are on delay, because you can sit on there forever, you know?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:05:41

I was on the la phone for, like, over 4 hours on Friday.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:05:46

That was ridiculous. And at the end, I didn't get through nobody. It was an automatic machine.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:05:46

See? Boom.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:05:52

On the Philadelphia line?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:05:53

Yes.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:05:59

I've never heard of that.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:06:01

Well, um… We just have to keep moving forward, you know?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:06:10

So, going back to the credit cards, it's all about, like, we was talking about, it's all about, you know, like,

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:06:17

Doesn't matter, I don't think it matters which…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:06:20

process you do with the credit cards and stuff like that.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:06:21

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:06:23

I think at the end, the bottom line will be liquidating, you know?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:06:28

Because we all know they're gonna…

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:06:29

Yeah.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:06:31

keep coming back.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:06:33

with a game, with, you know, like,

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:06:35

trying to play it us again.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:06:38

or go around to whatever we're trying to…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:06:41

get from them, you know? And we know they're not gonna give us anything, they're not gonna provide us with anything we ask them for. We know that.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:06:48

You know?

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:06:51

I agree. I agree. And they play so many games with it, like, even with the credit dispute, it's… that is a circle. You're on a roller… you're on a roller coaster, or you're on a… Uh, what are the things that go around and around? It's just… it's crazy the way they do it, you know? But you just gotta persevere and have that patience.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:06:53

Well…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:07:10

Well, I… I tell you what I did. Uh, what I did, I think, about a week ago.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:07:10

I can wait them out.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:07:16

I did a complaint with the CV…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:07:21

CFPB, and it was my third complaint with the same company.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:07:22

Mm-hmm.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:07:27

Uh, the third one, I got tired of, and I say,

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:07:30

I do not want to hear back an answer from the company with a rollback letter or rollback answer. I want a real answer. It's been 2 weeks, and they haven't replied back to me.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:07:39

Mm-hmm.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:07:42

So…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:07:42

Because you're not… because you can't… you're not gonna get that answer. Why would you ask for that?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:07:48

It's on record, it's all records, uh, Jason.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:07:51

It's for my record. It's paper trail.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:07:52

Yeah, but…

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:07:52

Wow.

[james] 19:07:54

I think that's still in the public, so they don't really care.

[james] 19:07:58

I think what has to be done is you have to circumvent them and go directly to the IRS and.

[james] 19:08:05

the Treasury. Because, like I was talking to Chris, and I said, okay, well.

[james] 19:08:10

Let's say you… you… you lay all this information on them.

[james] 19:08:14

And how do you enforce it? It's not like we can call the cops, and they're gonna go, you're nuts, we don't even know what you're doing.

[james] 19:08:21

So you basically just have to cross the T and dot the I's.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:08:21

Right.

[james] 19:08:24

and get it directly to the IRS. who's gonna help circum… uh… not circumvent, but, uh, process it.

[james] 19:08:31

to the Treasury, and then get the credits, and… I guess, hopefully, the greenbacks.

[james] 19:08:37

out of here. I mean, that's kind of how we explained it to me.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:08:42

Yeah, so you're… so, Rena, you're not, um, asking for a real live person, because that's gonna… basically give it away that you have no idea what you're doing. So you have to follow the administrative process, which you have in that packet that Chris… that you're building for Chris, of all the stuff he's…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:08:58

been sending out for the group. If you look at the administrative process, you're just following that.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:09:00

Mm-hmm.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:09:05

That's what you're doing. You're not… you don't want to say, like, hey, I want a live person answer, because then they'd be like, who is this person?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:09:12

You know, it doesn't ex… it doesn't exist.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:09:13

No, no. Jason, look, I… it was 3 complaints that I did. Out of the 3 complaints, I got the same answer.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:09:22

The same letter, same answer,

[Jason Ibarra] 19:09:22

Of course! Why would you…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:09:24

So by the third one, I was just like, don't give me… that's a robotic

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:09:29

answer. I do not want a robotic answer. And they said…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:09:32

They sent me an email back saying, oh, we're sending these, uh, complaints to the company.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:09:37

Okay, okay, Rena, you're not listening to what I just said.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:09:42

What do you… you're… you're… you're giving it away that you have no idea what you're doing.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:09:48

By asking that, do you not follow me?

[james] 19:09:53

And not only that, they don't… they don't understand it, because they've been trained in a different way anyway.

[james] 19:09:59

They think they're doing the right thing.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:10:01

Yeah, like, the name of the game is… What are they gonna do next?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:10:06

Like, the game of chess. If you ever follow… if you played the game of chess.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:10:10

The only way to win is you have to be 7, 8, 9 steps ahead of your opponent.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:10:15

So when someone says to me, I'm waiting for a real answer from a live person or a non-robotic.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:10:21

I'm gonna be like, man, I'm gonna eat this person alive, they have no fucking clue what they're talking about.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:10:26

So that's what I'm saying, you have to learn the administrative process.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:10:30

So you slam them, and then you go to the next step, because they know you're going to the next step.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:10:34

If they know you know the process, they know you're just… You know, you're just feeding them. You want them to keep giving you the same answers so you can nail them.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:10:48

Do you follow? Yeah, so it's not… it's almost like what you said before, but you kind of didn't take your own advice about building up evidence.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:10:49

Yep, I follow.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:10:57

You want to keep getting that no. Until you get that yes, it's kind of like in sales. You gotta keep asking, you gotta keep getting a no until the next call, you get a yes.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:11:07

You just don't know if it's gonna be 5, 6, 10, 15 times.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:11:11

Yep, I get it.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:11:12

But the minute… but the minute you ask him for something that is… not part of getting to the endgame.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:11:20

They're gonna just be like, oh man. You know, you're… you're just gonna be… discounted.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:11:29

You want to… you want them to have fear, like they're trying to put fear into you.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:11:33

paper terror… terrorism.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:11:41

And liquidation, it's a fancy, nice word. It's very hard.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:11:51

and very serious issue. I mean, if you guys remember.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:11:53

The woman who was, uh, running around Switzerland. that was getting caught up in the mental institutions. I don't know if some of you were around for that, so it might… it might sound like a… Crazy guy right now, but…

[luke ] 19:12:04

No. I back up.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:12:06

Yeah, Jamie, Jamie, whatever it was?

[Nicole Pacheco] 19:12:07

I remember. Jamie, yeah, Jamie, yeah.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:12:10

Yeah, they… that person, and I'm not, you know, I would say the same thing if they were on the line right now. I'm not saying anything behind their back or in front of them, because we're not going to learn unless you can take the heat.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:12:22

like Kimberly said, but that person… I don't know if you guys knew this, but Chris mentioned it a couple times on the call.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:12:28

She was sending liquidation information to frickin' Pfizer. And Bill Gates Foundation!

[Jason Ibarra] 19:12:40

So you gotta be careful… You know, you gotta know what the hell you're doing.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:12:46

And, like Chris said, the credentials, you better be properly credentialed, because I can promise you this, he was not.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:12:53

I don't… I didn't know her personally, so I can't say with 100%.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:12:58

you know, first-hand personal knowledge type thing. I can't say it.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:13:01

But… you gotta be… I mean, if you're gonna be doing those kind of things.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:13:06

You gotta be ready for the battle, and I don't think many… you know, you really gotta be studying this stuff for decades.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:13:12

to really know what the hell you're doing.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:13:17

So, I don't know if many people knew that, but she was going after major, major, major institutions.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:13:23

And you have to be careful with that.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:13:34

So that's liquidation.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:13:36

Yeah, I don't think it wouldn't matter.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:13:38

Which company she was going after, she wouldn't be ready, but she wasn't.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:13:44

Well, try… Try doing a UCC one.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:13:49

on a multi-billion dollar corporation. And then go do one out of 5 or 10 or 15 million dollar corporation, and tell me what you just said.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:13:57

tell me if you don't get a difference. And the response.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:14:02

Right? You don't… You really want to go after a company that's doing billions and billions and dollars and have the brightest.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:14:10

biggest, you know, they may not be the brightest, but… they're definitely the biggest. Lawyers in the world?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:14:17

Well, if I knew what I… if I knew 100% what I'm doing, I don't think I wouldn't mind that.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:14:18

They're probably no…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:14:23

That wouldn't be the less of my worries.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:14:27

Okay, well, that's the magic… that's the $64,000 question, then, is when do you think you'll be ready?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:14:33

When you can fight, you know, these institutions. I don't know what she was trying to accomplish.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:14:38

by going after those people and liquidation. But I'm pretty sure she wasn't gonna get it accomplished.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:14:41

Oh, wow. But I agree with Brainer that if you know what you're doing, and I think it comes from… it comes from repetition.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:14:48

I mean…

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:14:55

And, um, really listening to Chris, the way he talks with confidence, I think that.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:15:02

an era, you know. when you make those errors, it strengthens you, you know what I'm saying?

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:15:08

Because now you know what to say. You know, you understand what error you made, and you know what to say and how to deal with it.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:15:15

You know, hard knocks, that's what I call that.

[james] 19:15:21

Yeah, the only problem is if you start going after companies like that.

[james] 19:15:25

You know, what happened to David Wynn Miller? They poisoned him.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:15:25

Oh, dear.

[james] 19:15:30

And if you look like you're really going to become a threat to somebody.

[james] 19:15:34

With that kind of money? Hillary Clinton, hello! Can you help me out?

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:15:34

Right. Correct.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:15:40

So they poisoned David's… They poisoned him? Oh, wow.

[james] 19:15:43

Yeah. Yeah, my… my buddy John, who was good friends with him, just like, uh… Chris, they… I mean, he was going in the courts, taking down the judges.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:15:50

Mm-hmm.

[james] 19:15:54

going after the attorney firms, everything. And, you know, he just got to the point where.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:15:57

Wow.

[james] 19:16:01

he was just making too many waves, and… When you start dealing with really, really.

[james] 19:16:07

wealthy, powerful people. You gotta realize how far you're gonna really want to go.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:16:11

Right. Is it worth it? Yes. Yeah. Hmm.

[james] 19:16:12

Because there is a risk. There is a risk.

[james] 19:16:18

Ellie tried to kill the president of the other… the United States a few months ago.

[james] 19:16:22

Right? So…

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:16:23

Yeah, they did.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:25

How they're gonna kill a fake person?

[james] 19:16:30

Yeah, like, hey, don't shoot me, I'm already dead!

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:34

I mean, but no, seriously, I mean… I think…

[james] 19:16:36

What do you mean you're already dead? No, no, really, I am. I'm the other guy! Kill the guy with the capital name!

[james] 19:16:44

He's dead already! You can't do anything. See if you can get…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:46

Yeah, that's… that's all bullshit anyway, but you know what I'm saying? Like, if… you know, they're all… that's all fiction, so it's kind of like your senator.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:54

I mean, if you guys look at the, um… If you go online to your state senator.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:16:59

whatever state you're living in, and you, you know, if you… if you want to fill out a form.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:04

you have to fill out… it's pretty funny. You have to pretty much sign something in your all-caps name of some sort.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:12

And then you have to, like. submit it in through there, basically, you're talking to a fiction… character, and that's your senator.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:21

It's kind of weird. If you ever really want to… kind of, you know, if you have some people that.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:26

don't believe all this stuff, all you have to do is say, go look at the form to talk to your senator. I mean, why do you have to go do that?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:34

if they're a real person that can actually do something for you.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:39

They can't. And those… and I forgot the exact name of the form.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:43

But you guys will know exactly what I'm talking about if you look it up.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:47

And you'll see it, and it's like, whoa, okay, there you go.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:50

So, if there… if our state senators are fake, our representatives are fake.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:17:56

I mean, you guys see all the paperwork for the Treasury package.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:18:00

I mean, you're… you're going to Scott Bissett of the, you know, for this Treasury.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:18:06

you're not gonna get a response from him. you're defaulting him, in a sense, in that paperwork, right? After 30 days, boom.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:18:19

So, how could… the President of the United States wouldn't be real, and everybody else would be fake, right?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:18:29

Unless you really love Donald Trump or Joe Biden.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:18:42

Or Hillary Clinton. Fantastic, thanks. Or George Bush.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:18:48

I don't care who the hell it is. They're all…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:18:49

Okay, now, off-topics.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:18:53

Driver license.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:18:54

My driver license is expiring.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:18:58

Well, why am I gonna do with it? I don't know yet.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:19:01

I don't want to renew.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:19:05

Or I might have to.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:19:08

Um, are you asking a question? What is… what's… what are you saying?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:19:13

and asking a question.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:19:16

Anybody have any thoughts about?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:19:17

Okay? So what… what to do? Yeah, you gotta… you gotta renew it unless you want more problems in your life.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:19:25

Pick your battles. Can you defend a DOT plate?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:19:31

And get pulled over every… 6 months, 60 days, every week.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:19:37

And get tickets?

[j] 19:19:38

Uh-oh.

[james] 19:19:41

Or you can just put a stamp on your driver's license.

[james] 19:19:44

one of those gold stamps, and then… When you get pulled over, if you do.

[james] 19:19:50

Philip, you're in the process of delivering the mail.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:19:54

That was David Wynn Miller.

[james] 19:19:55

That's what… that's what my buddy, uh. who was a good friend of, uh… David Wynn Miller still does that.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:20:02

David Wood Miller has… if you do enough research, and you find… you could find it, that's David Win Miller. Yep.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:20:12

Um, so Rena, I mean, really? I mean, it depends… I mean… you gotta pick your battles, you know, like… it's whatever, 50 bucks to renew a license?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:20:22

and insurance, whatever, I mean… you're not gonna win that battle. They're gonna keep pulling you over and keep giving you tickets, and you have to enjoy doing that, or… move on to the next thing. It's, you know, it's kind of like what James said with your utilities.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:20:35

You know, you may want to, you know, some people may choose to do a bigger deal.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:20:39

Mm-hmm. Right.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:20:39

Right now, until you really know what you're doing.

[james] 19:20:41

Well, yeah, I mean, look at, for example. The arbitration that I went against the bank.

[james] 19:20:49

for a default is $900,000. So, I would much rather put my effort into getting that done and getting the money for that.

[james] 19:20:59

in the credits, rather than worrying about my electric bill every month.

[james] 19:21:03

Or, like you said, getting pulled over in your car. I mean, Chase is totally right.

[james] 19:21:08

Like, a lot of these people aren't gonna know, and they're gonna pull you over, and you're gonna have to go through that hassle.

[james] 19:21:14

Yeah, you can beat it, but is it going to be worth it?

[james] 19:21:18

You could get pulled over 3 times on the same day.

[james] 19:21:21

You know? Just, to me, it's not worth it.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:21:22

Yep.

[james] 19:21:24

kind of thinking big picture.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:21:27

I'm just thinking about signature signing, okay? Um…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:21:31

And, like, so far, like, I had asked out of everything, like the borders, I, um…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:21:39

inflammation, you know, like, when you go to bolting, all these things that aren't out already.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:21:42

You're gonna have the penalty.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:21:44

And I feel like…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:21:47

with a driver license, it's just, like, if I do it again, it would be, like, just…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:21:48

Spartans a chance to extend their lead.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:21:52

keep doing the same thing, you know, when I'm out of everything else.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:21:55

That's, like, the little battle I had on my brain right now.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:21:56

Same. Yeah, but same thing of… but what?

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:21:56

Right.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:22:03

So you're not gonna… so you don't vote. Okay, what does that have to do with getting pulled over 10 times a month?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:22:13

Taking penalty.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:22:18

Right? I mean…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:22:25

Yeah.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:22:27

You just have to… you're always gonna have a public-facing entity.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:22:31

And if you understand the balance between the public and the private, you just have to learn.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:22:35

how to play the pieces. Like, the Monopoly board, you know, or… like a chessboard, or whatever.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:22:43

You gotta know how to play the pieces, so what's… who cares?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:22:47

You know, so it's, again, what battle… do you want to be… you're gonna get tickets.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:22:52

Ask Chris, he just got pulled over there at night.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:22:54

I actually never got to think into, like, a couple months ago. I had my first take in my entire life that I had driving.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:23:01

And the guy was just, like, give… he… he was just like, you know what, I wasn't gonna give you a ticket,

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:23:07

But because I started kind of, like, asking him questions and back and forth with him, then he was just like, I'm gonna give a ticket. $80…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:23:08

Fantastic.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:23:16

Tika he gave me.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:23:17

Did you sign it as grantor?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:23:19

No, they don't even let you sign, they gave you, uh, electronic, uh, electronic, uh, ticket.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:23:22

They have to.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:23:26

They will… I asked, I was like, wait, I have to sign? They're like, no, you don't have to sign anything.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:23:31

Oh, it's even better then. Did you get the ticket, and then you just… You got a ticket, you have to have done… you have to have done something, they can't just give you a… They can't give you a ticket without some type of…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:23:35

Yeah, I'll play there.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:23:44

um, voluntary acceptance. You have to have done something. He might have asked you a question.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:23:48

No, he… he was just like, you know why I'm pulling you over? I was like, no, sir.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:23:49

And he…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:23:53

And I'm… and I'm pretty sure you're going to tell me why.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:23:56

So, we just… I just started back and forth, asking him questions, you know, and he just didn't like it, and gave me a freaking ticket.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:24:03

Right, but on the ticket, though, there's gotta be a signature or some type of voluntary.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:24:09

acknowledgement that he got you on. that the ticket shows that you accepted it. You can't… he can't just give you a ticket. It's gotta be accepted of some sort.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:24:20

Hmm. All he did was handing me the ticket. That's all I can tell you.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:24:25

Yeah, but I just said, look on the ticket.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:24:28

I'll pay that already, I don't even have that thing on that paper anymore.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:24:33

But he says, like, supposedly he says he stopped me because I was speeding.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:24:39

Okay, what…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:24:39

5 miles above, or whatever the speed limit.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:24:42

You know? And then he come and say that he wasn't gonna give me the ticket.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:24:48

But then he was gonna give me the ticket, because I was kind of, like, back and forth with him, and he felt aggravated, I guess. I don't know.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:24:57

But he gave me the ticket, and then I was like, okay.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:25:00

Was the signature? What kind of… where am I have to sign this ticket?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:25:03

Because, you know, I was gonna do without recording all these things. Nothing. It's like, no, you don't have to sign it.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:25:09

Have a nice day and drive safe. He took off.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:25:12

Well, he…

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:25:12

Yeah, they're arrogant.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:25:14

Yeah, definitely.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:25:19

Well, you should know that it wasn't about the ticket anyway, so…

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:25:23

Right.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:25:24

Yeah, I know that, I know that, but, you know…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:25:25

I mean…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:25:28

People just being… I don't know.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:25:30

One of those cubs.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:25:34

Right, but that ticket… that ticket still exists in the system.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:25:35

Well.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:25:39

So, that's the real money. Right?

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:25:42

Right.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:25:43

That's a negotiable instrument, that's the security that you signed over.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:25:47

And that you paid. Well, you… again, you have to have accepted of some sort, maybe New Jersey has, like, where they ask you a question, and you said yes of some sort, you… you voluntarily went into that situation somehow, way, shape, or form. You just have to study how…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:25:48

I didn't sign anything. I just paid it.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:26:05

how the law is in New Jersey to get you that ticket.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:26:08

bless him. The whole entire conversation, I did not say anything with a yes.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:26:14

There was no yes out in my mouth.

[james] 19:26:14

Maybe the… maybe the fact that you accepted it and took it with you, they consider that the same thing.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:26:16

any sort of.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:26:21

That's the same thing. Exactly. That is the same thing.

[james] 19:26:21

In New Jersey. See, if you'd have said, no, I'm not signing it.

[james] 19:26:27

Then they would have arrested you. Because it is an arrest when you get a ticket.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:26:31

Yeah.

[james] 19:26:31

But they're just putting you on your… own recognizance to show up at court.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:26:36

Mm-hmm.

[james] 19:26:37

But the fact that you took it and didn't deny it, and didn't refuse it, rather.

[james] 19:26:41

That's probably why… I think Chase is right on that, you know?

[james] 19:26:46

Totally.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:26:47

Got it.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:26:49

That makes sense.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:26:50

Well, it sounds like you're… you want to get more tickets, so… Don't renew your license.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:26:59

No, I don't, like…

[james] 19:27:00

I need the attention! I don't get enough attention!

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:03

Yeah, sounds like you love the attention.

[james] 19:27:08

I haven't been stopped for a week! What took you so long?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:12

Hey, Mr. Officer, I'm about to get my DOT plates next week, you son of a…

[james] 19:27:15

What do I gotta do? Run somebody over?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:27:16

I actually do have my DOTs, Jason.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:21

Okay, sounds like you're going down that path. Good luck!

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:27:26

Hmm…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:26

Good luck. Good riddance. Oh gosh, Rena, don't be going to jail for this shit.

[james] 19:27:28

Oh, boy.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:27:29

Yeah, it was just…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:33

Come on, man.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:27:38

Yeah, he didn't even have the guts to fight, to argue with me. Well, I guess.

[j] 19:27:44

I don't think

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:27:48

Right.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:57

Um… How much longer do we have to wait?

[j] 19:28:04

I'm not sure, I haven't heard anything back from him yet.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:28:08

But who sent that… who sent that Word document a second ago?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:28:12

You?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:28:16

I think that was Chris.

[j] 19:28:16

Nope.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:28:17

How did Chris… yeah, how did he… how did he do that?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:28:21

From his phone? Hi, Ali!

[j] 19:28:23

You ask… you ask how. I ask why, he just… He does, he does.

[j] 19:28:31

You've got the wrong… the wrong question.

[Ally] 19:28:36

Did I miss the meeting, or is the… has the meeting… only begun.

[j] 19:28:40

Oh, we're waiting for my dad to come back.

[Ally] 19:28:43

Oh, okay, so he's already been going. He just took a break.

[j] 19:28:48

Yeah. Unfortunately, let me see…

[Ally] 19:28:50

Okay. Well, I'll have to listen to the recording.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:28:56

No, it didn't start, that's the funny thing.

[Ally] 19:29:00

Not at all? Not really?

[j] 19:29:01

No, it started a little bit.

[j] 19:29:06

And then he's filing documents in the Division, too.

[Ally] 19:29:07

Okay.

[Ally] 19:29:13

Okay. Well, as long as I didn't miss much, then… Just felt like an idiot. I'm like, wait, what time was it? Oh, I had a meeting.

[j] 19:29:14

Okay, I've got it. No, just Jason Young and everybody.

[j] 19:29:23

No, just Tom yelling at everyone.

[Ally] 19:29:24

Okay. Sweet!

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:29:40

Does anybody else have anything? Anything else? Uh, Ali, we're just talking between us.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:29:47

If anything, you're working on that you can…

[Ally] 19:29:48

Yes, I do have questions for you, Raina.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:29:52

I mean, anything you're working on that you might want our opinions, or somebody else might have an insight to help you, whatever, you are welcome to speak.

[Ally] 19:30:00

Yeah, I do have questions for you, Raina. I… So, last time we were on the meeting.

[Ally] 19:30:10

Chris said, I don't need to authenticate the birth certificate.

[Ally] 19:30:13

So, I get… I think that means that I just need to… certify it through the state and then federal.

[Ally] 19:30:24

Do I have that right?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:30:26

Chris, on the last meeting, yeah, Chris says that you don't need to.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:30:31

authenticated, or Serify.

[Ally] 19:30:33

Right. But I do still need a… sort of… I don't need to certify either.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:30:34

Right, Jason?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:30:40

Ibarra?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:30:43

What?

[Ally] 19:30:43

It's like the 45… they send it back with the 45… degree stamped through the middle of the birth certificate. Do I need to do that?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:30:54

You still have to sign it the same way, yeah, in the 45-degree angle, yes.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:30:59

Yeah, that's something completely different. That's not…

[Ally] 19:31:02

Oh, see, I don't… That's what my holdup is.

[james] 19:31:03

Yeah, you…

[iPhone] 19:31:05

Your birth certificate is certified, period.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:31:12

Cool.

[Ally] 19:31:14

But what do I?

[iPhone] 19:31:14

Your birth certificate… Your birth certificate is certified, and when you get it from wherever you're getting it.

[j] 19:31:15

There we go. Dad, you there

[iPhone] 19:31:21

If you want to take it to the federal level, that's fine. A lot of people do, they get, like.

[iPhone] 19:31:25

what's called a consumer private number that goes with it. You can use it as a social security number.

[Ally] 19:31:37

So where do I send it, and do I put a.

[Ally] 19:31:41

cover letter with it? Or should I not even worry about that right now?

[iPhone] 19:31:45

No, you got a whole package that you gotta send out. It's not just your, uh, birth certificate.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:31:50

Yeah.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:31:52

I think she's talking about something else, Chris, I think…

[iPhone] 19:31:55

What are you talking about? Allie?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:31:58

Go ahead.

[iPhone] 19:32:01

Allie?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:32:03

Kim, can you mute yourself?

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:32:07

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought that I was not… I thought I was muted. I'm sorry, sorry about that.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:32:10

Oh, boy. Oh, boy.

[Kimberly Byrd] 19:32:13

You're right. Wait a minute!

[iPhone] 19:32:15

Um. Tom Sutter yourself, Tom.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:32:15

Oh, gosh.

[iPhone] 19:32:23

Okay, Allie, Allie, start over. What are you talking about?

[Ally] 19:32:29

Oh, I thought it was my next step, but it sounds like it might not even be something I need to work on right now.

[iPhone] 19:32:35

I know, but… but your birth certificate goes through a whole slew of packets, don't you have?

[Ally] 19:32:35

Um, just my birth certificate.

[iPhone] 19:32:41

Just… don't you have the whole packet of what you need to get your packet out?

[iPhone] 19:32:47

Did anybody give that to Al?

[Ally] 19:32:48

Uh, well, I have the… I have the Google Doc.

[Ally] 19:32:54

That has everything on there. And then we went through…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:32:56

And I also pulled up…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:32:59

little… the little presentation in the group, also.

[iPhone] 19:32:59

You need to go with Luke? You got… here's what I want you guys to do.

[Ally] 19:33:03

Right, with the slideshows, but I thought there was a… Go ahead, Chris.

[iPhone] 19:33:07

Here's what I want you guys to do. You guys need to have a mini.

[iPhone] 19:33:11

meeting with Allie, people that have finished. Luke, Raina, and Kim.

[iPhone] 19:33:17

So that she can get… Allie can get her package out.

[iPhone] 19:33:22

And that way, there'll only be one person left, and we won't mention any names, but that'll be… But… we believe in him.

[james] 19:33:31

Thanks. Thank you again.

[iPhone] 19:33:32

We still… we believe in Him.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:33:39

Jim, we didn't want to blow Jim under the bus. Come on, Chris.

[iPhone] 19:33:42

Give him! Jim, is Chim there? No!

[iPhone] 19:33:45

Jim, we were talking about Tom, sorry.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:33:49

Yeah, that's a good comeback. Jim, do you believe that?

[Ally] 19:33:51

I thought we were talking about Tom.

[iPhone] 19:33:52

Oh…

[james] 19:33:54

Real convincing. That is real convincing. I took that hook line, and sinker.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:33:56

That was awesome! That was perfect.

[iPhone] 19:34:01

That was great.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:34:02

Oh, man, you couldn't… you couldn't script that one out any better.

[iPhone] 19:34:07

No, it's… it's only theater for us, that's all.

[iPhone] 19:34:12

But… that's what we need to do. And we need to include Jim in there, we need to include Jim in there.

[iPhone] 19:34:19

And if Tom, aka. Jason, you borrow can pull away from one of his Jamaican 20 jobs. He could probably… get inside there, too, and then we can all… If Jason can't do something, for whatever reason, then he can delegate one or two things out.

[iPhone] 19:34:36

that we can help him out with, then he'll be one or two things closer.

[iPhone] 19:34:40

You see, guys, the whole point of us operating in this group is so that we can have creditors and commerce.

[iPhone] 19:34:46

So that we can… we can start gifting. Uh, to each other, and creating negotiable instruments so that we can.

[iPhone] 19:34:55

get credits sent back in. The same way that, you know, the Clintons do, but if they're doing it in a different way to really screw people over, right?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:35:08

Yep.

[luke ] 19:35:10

Any… anyone on… Lots of notaries on those credentials, Luke here, Raina, and I, we're both notaries, so if you need us, let us know.

[iPhone] 19:35:10

You guys get that?

[iPhone] 19:35:21

Yeah, I just… I just want you guys to comprehend that a lot of the stuff that I put out there that has to do with utilities.

[iPhone] 19:35:29

Or a credit card, or mortgages is another way to skin the cat. I put 3 ways on how to liquidate people out there.

[iPhone] 19:35:35

The one I like the most is the one that goes to the Bureau of Treasury. I just sent one out to the Bureau of Treasury the same way I did with Castle Mortgage.

[iPhone] 19:35:43

And what they… what happens when you do that is that they go out and they have, uh, the artificial intelligence.

[iPhone] 19:35:50

starts looking at what's anomalous, and then they freeze that company.

[iPhone] 19:35:55

that company cannot get any funds going in, and not only that, but I have the UCC1.

[iPhone] 19:36:01

that… that… where this… I'm the secured party, which I showed you guys last time.

[iPhone] 19:36:08

The liquidation will come by itself. Now, I know a lot of people want to know, when am I going to get my money, when am I going to get my credits? Well.

[iPhone] 19:36:14

you know, everything right… and from the get-go with the IRS was, you know, a big mystery, which I thought I had the tiger by the tail.

[iPhone] 19:36:23

And then, you know, the new administration came in, and.

[iPhone] 19:36:27

And then we have a government shutdown. Um, it's certainly… has made it… I don't want to say, in my mind.

[iPhone] 19:36:36

difficult, because the remedy is always going to be there, and there's nothing… that anybody can do to stop the remedy.

[iPhone] 19:36:43

And even prison extraction is debt validation. You can't have, uh… You can have two characters in a prison, it's double jeopardy.

[iPhone] 19:36:52

Now, I will… I will share this, and I think… and I… and Jason Ibar, you can attest to this, because.

[iPhone] 19:37:00

Here in a lot of the conversations that I have with some of the people.

[iPhone] 19:37:04

Because, you know, Jason… Jason is always calling me, and I'm on the phone with him almost 24-7. Ain't that right, Jason?

[iPhone] 19:37:11

And, um… And, um… Let me tell you about my face. No. Okay, look, Jason… Jason gets to hear… some, you know, my clients from time to time.

[iPhone] 19:37:26

And… When I did the guy in Miami.

[iPhone] 19:37:31

We were a little unsure of why he had one charge.

[iPhone] 19:37:34

And we just got the docketed, and the same day that I served the judge, the clerk, and the prosecution, which was June the 12th.

[iPhone] 19:37:43

They all charges got dropped. And I'm only going to say this, and then I'm gonna let… I'm gonna have Jason attest to the conversation, not because I say it, but because I have a witness.

[iPhone] 19:37:54

And… and… quote-unquote, my client, who has.

[iPhone] 19:37:59

almost over 4 million people on. is in… on his media, which he's a… he's a big, big guy out there.

[iPhone] 19:38:07

Uh, he said, I can't believe it, all 10 charges were dropped.

[iPhone] 19:38:13

On that day that you serve the judge, and that's the same day that they came in.

[iPhone] 19:38:19

And what did he say, Bar, quote-unquote, they were rushing him, he had to do the… Right then, right there, and he… he signed… for one charge.

[iPhone] 19:38:30

So they played a very good game, but, you know, at the end of the day, he's gonna be out, and I'm gonna have him out, and I'm gonna get that one charge dropped now, because I can… Going back to the Department of Justice, so I've discovered that the DOJ.

[iPhone] 19:38:43

is the exact place to go, including the Secretary of State, in which I'm working on another.

[iPhone] 19:38:47

Uh, you know, I'm working on another one for you, your, your good buddy Franz, Jim, which he's also.

[iPhone] 19:38:54

We got that core spent conns back from the… Secretary of State, which is good, that's a contract.

[iPhone] 19:39:00

And… and… Yeah, Secretary of State. I think I showed that. I think you may have been going through a lot at that time, but… Uh, yeah, they did. And… and so, uh, but get back to my Miami-Dade, um.

[james] 19:39:01

They got… they got back to you from the secretary?

[james] 19:39:03

Did you say?

[iPhone] 19:39:17

client confirming. Uh, and Ibara, what… you heard the conversation, right? You know, what did… he said something like, yeah, they pressured him on that one day.

[iPhone] 19:39:27

And kind of terrorized him. If he didn't do this or do that.

[iPhone] 19:39:31

And that's why he took the plea, not knowing they didn't disclose to him the other 10.

[iPhone] 19:39:37

Charges had been dropped and dismissed. And… and that's how territories work.

[iPhone] 19:39:44

You're… you're, you're stuck. in territory.

[iPhone] 19:39:49

You're not in… you're not in the United States anymore.

[iPhone] 19:39:53

Because the United States corporation is fiction. But, uh, Ibar, you want to jump in and kind of give your own spin on that?

[iPhone] 19:40:00

What you heard, what you heard.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:40:04

Yeah, I've heard, um… Gosh, it's… it's tough for me because, um… you know, this person is, uh, is listening to so many different outside.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:40:17

Um, influences. So he's… I mean, like Chris said, he's gonna have one hell of a book to write, and he's probably gonna have 12 million followers after… After he gets to talk about some of this stuff, because, I mean, not many people…

[Jason Ibarra] 19:40:32

are congratulated in a prison cell. Um, in their life.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:40:37

And I'm pretty sure this… I call him a kid.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:40:51

He was in trouble. uh, you know, in the beginning, it took… Oh, really? When everything get good.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:40:52

You're breaking up, Ibarra.

[iPhone] 19:41:04

Good morning, Bar, get a real phone.

[iPhone] 19:41:09

Are you on a walkie-talkie? What's going on?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:41:12

I'm on the… I'm on… supposedly on the best network in the country.

[iPhone] 19:41:17

Well, that's a… that's a lie, but go ahead, come on, tell us the truth.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:41:23

Oh, can… am I back?

[iPhone] 19:41:25

We got you back, man, continue on. It was getting… you're getting, you know, very good. You were like Rod Serling telling a story.

[iPhone] 19:41:31

You don't know who he is just before your time.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:41:32

Um. Well, no, for this… Um, just for… I guess from my standpoint, I'll just say that, um… It was very… you know, he's transformed quite a bit over… the many months from when his mom.

[james] 19:41:35

Twilight Zone!

[Jason Ibarra] 19:41:50

got in touch with Chris in some way… some way, shape, or form.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:41:54

And he is… he has seen… probably way… I mean, I don't want to discount any of our experiences in this group.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:42:01

But I'm pretty sure… He's got the ride of his life, you know, that he's been taking for the last few months.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:42:07

And he's seen, you know, probably some of the biggest chess players.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:42:11

you could possibly see. Because the bonds, you know.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:42:16

on 100-plus years is probably in the… hundreds of millions, if not more.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:42:21

Right, Chris? I mean…

[iPhone] 19:42:22

Oh, it's far worse. I mean, you know, the thing about it was when Jason was saying he was… Congratulated. Uh, they literally, them being the prosecutors and the, uh, um.

[iPhone] 19:42:36

It was the Homeland Security people that went in there and they congratulated him, because, you know, he was able to get off of all 10 charges.

[iPhone] 19:42:45

What they didn't tell them was, when they came back in, was he had to make a deal.

[iPhone] 19:42:51

If those 10 charges were going to be dropped, which were already dropped.

[iPhone] 19:42:56

And so, he, under duress. Because I told him, I said.

[iPhone] 19:43:03

sign it. My fear was they were gonna kill him.

[iPhone] 19:43:06

Or he was gonna have an accident. Uh, just because it was anomalous.

[iPhone] 19:43:12

that they congrat… they congratulated him, but I know how this works.

[iPhone] 19:43:17

Um, so he ended up taking that, and, you know, he got, you know.

[iPhone] 19:43:22

He's gonna serve, maybe. If he was going to serve.

[iPhone] 19:43:26

he'd probably have another… 6 months left, and granted, he was facing.

[iPhone] 19:43:31

hundreds of years. Uh, but because I now know that they did a… superseding information, I can go back.

[iPhone] 19:43:40

to the Department of Justice. and get that, um… I have this true bill.

[iPhone] 19:43:47

now I have it. I think the most important thing that I get in out of this, guys, is because, look, I don't know everything. I've said this many, many times.

[iPhone] 19:43:57

the only experience I have is the experiences that I've been through and that have worked.

[iPhone] 19:44:02

Well, I'm looking for consistency. But I'm one man.

[iPhone] 19:44:06

And… We've done a lot of great things.

[iPhone] 19:44:10

But when I see that… I hit something on target.

[iPhone] 19:44:17

Because when he told me 9 out of 10, I was not happy. I was very discontented.

[iPhone] 19:44:23

And I told that, I was puzzled. Until he got that back.

[iPhone] 19:44:29

And, uh, it's very, very… Um, endearing to see that, because I do hang my hat on the law of our Creator.

[iPhone] 19:44:38

Uh, this has nothing to do with religion. Uh, it does have to do with.

[iPhone] 19:44:45

uh, being a great… synergy and frequency.

[iPhone] 19:44:49

Whether you're doing your 1099s. Uh, that's why you see a lot of the stuff I put out there, because we're not going to be here to argue, we're not here to argue, we're here to… Where creditors, only debtsters argue. We're here to do conditional acceptance.

[iPhone] 19:45:03

whether I'm dealing with Kim and her property, or Raina on her property and her car, or her utilities, or Luke.

[iPhone] 19:45:10

who's gonna, you know, uh, purchase the property in the private.

[iPhone] 19:45:15

I'm actually meeting with, uh, you know, two brokers tomorrow to do some negotiable instruments.

[iPhone] 19:45:20

I'm looking forward. to doing all these things with you. I put so much out there because, you know, I know there's a lot of people.

[iPhone] 19:45:28

And from time to time in our earlier groups, it was… was… sending me messages that were very, very… Um, not very nice.

[iPhone] 19:45:37

that I was withholding. And that, you know, who did I think I was? Um… And I never shared that with… you know, maybe you borrow, I probably shared that with you, and maybe Kim and Raina, a few other people.

[iPhone] 19:45:51

that, you know, that came to my defense. And those people are no longer here.

[iPhone] 19:45:58

And I did a lot of great stuff for them. I took care of their taxes.

[iPhone] 19:46:02

uh, some of them on their mortgages, their cars… I mean, I'm still talking to Veronica right now.

[iPhone] 19:46:08

Guys, you remember Veronica, she's that attorney. And she called me today because they won't speak to her, and this is her house. They had to speak to me, because.

[iPhone] 19:46:17

I did the bill of exchange. And, uh, we found out that not only is there fraud going on, but there's no attorneys.

[iPhone] 19:46:26

Uh, there's, uh, trustees only, so there's been an amount of lies, but I digress.

[iPhone] 19:46:32

Um, the… the reason that I've put out so much stuff out there is because you can do.

[iPhone] 19:46:38

Debt validation. You can use all the codes that I've put out there.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:46:40

play on

[iPhone] 19:46:43

for credit cards, for utilities, or homes, or houses.

[iPhone] 19:46:47

I'm doing these live. I'm not here to, you know, to give… miracles or signs.

[iPhone] 19:46:53

I'm here so that we can walk… we can walk through this together.

[iPhone] 19:46:58

And you can learn and educate yourself and be informed for yourself.

[iPhone] 19:47:04

Uh, if you're looking for a master or somebody else to do what you can, I mean, I can step in, but I don't know about a lot of the people I think are here want to have their own… want to have their own, uh, ability to do what they want to be, what they want to do with your 1099s, your utilities, or whatever.

[iPhone] 19:47:22

We're gonna… we're on that road right now. That's why I put all that out there, and Raina's putting everything together.

[iPhone] 19:47:27

Along with getting your credentials and everything out so that you guys can do 1099s, and.

[iPhone] 19:47:33

you know, I'm gonna do a 1099 miscellaneous, and I'm gonna… I'm gonna gift… $350,000 to Kim's.

[iPhone] 19:47:42

uh, non-profit, and… And a lot of people are gonna say, why? Because I can't.

[iPhone] 19:47:47

I'm gonna… I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna go and get a car. I'm gonna show you.

[iPhone] 19:47:53

Uh, because the laws are the laws. It's our credit, and if you're not reading the stuff, then you're never gonna know.

[iPhone] 19:48:00

Um. I know for a fact, if I were to show you my bank statements of what I spent, you'd be… it'd be… it'd be too… I mean, if I'm doing 221 or $222,000 in a month.

[iPhone] 19:48:13

Because I'm doing investments in the public. You can't hang your hat on the private, or you're gonna end up, like, you know, Brisley Adams up in the hills.

[iPhone] 19:48:24

You gotta… you have to make moves. And that's not my decision. That's not my choices.

[iPhone] 19:48:30

Everybody has to make their own decisions, their own choices on what they want to do. I can only, you know, bring what I know is the truth.

[iPhone] 19:48:37

And then you gotta check me! That's why I put those laws out there.

[iPhone] 19:48:43

USC 1692G! Once you start your debt validation, they have to freeze everything. Cease and desist.

[iPhone] 19:48:51

Now, are they gonna stop? Maybe not, but we have the tools to stop them, and we can take them into a courtroom.

[iPhone] 19:48:57

And we can beat them! And that's what I bring to the table, because I'm the signee, and I can take them into the court, the same way I do for debt validation, I do for prison extraction.

[iPhone] 19:49:07

I'm able to go into the courtroom. That doesn't make me better, it just means I have my credentials in order, and it means I have knowledge.

[iPhone] 19:49:14

that I earn through blood, sweat, and tears. But you don't have to do all that.

[iPhone] 19:49:20

What you have to do is you have to just study.

[iPhone] 19:49:24

and balance. What that means… balance means balance your books, balance your statements, balance your mind.

[iPhone] 19:49:30

Just like we have balance from day to night.

[iPhone] 19:49:33

ought to cold. Uh, everything needs to be balanced, that's what I mean. I'm not trying to be Mr. Miyagi. You need to be bad at snow. Well, I don't know, it sounds like more like Arnold Schwarzenegger, but…

[iPhone] 19:49:44

You get my point. And that's why… When I put those things out there.

[iPhone] 19:49:51

Um, you need to read. Read the 10… how many of you read the 1099Cs where it says that you can discharge your foreclosures?

[iPhone] 19:50:01

This is why we're going into court, because I've done that for the people that I'm doing that with, whether it's Raina or Kim.

[iPhone] 19:50:08

Uh, whoever it may be. And the same thing when I tell Luke, when we go to the table.

[iPhone] 19:50:14

Read what I just said, because you have an… you have unlimited amount of credit, not money.

[iPhone] 19:50:20

There's no money. It's credit. And financial assets.

[iPhone] 19:50:25

And you gotta walk low, like I said, like, when you're walking low to wash somebody's feet, it's your adapter. You're coming in, and you're telling your servant.

[iPhone] 19:50:35

that you're coming in as adapter. And then after you're done, you step up, and you're high. Now you're the creditor. Now you can just say, no, I'm not signing the rest of this.

[iPhone] 19:50:43

And if you don't… you know, this is… you go to the underwriter, and you say, look, I know this is what's going on, and.

[iPhone] 19:50:49

You can't… you can't… you can't, uh, you, you took my social security card.

[iPhone] 19:50:53

Credit card, and you ran it. And then after that, you do a letter to rescind.

[iPhone] 19:50:58

And that letter to rescind within 72 hours is what brings the balance to zero!

[iPhone] 19:51:04

What did you do? You, you settled.

[iPhone] 19:51:08

and you bought closure. You balanced it, you enforced them to balance it when you do… So you see, you have to do the rescind letter.

[iPhone] 19:51:16

within that 72 hours, because it's under the Truth in Lending Act, under Regulation Z and Regulation X.

[iPhone] 19:51:25

You know, you all have everything that you need, and this is why we have this study group.

[iPhone] 19:51:30

So that we can get there together. I am more than willing to walk.

[iPhone] 19:51:35

or be in a courtroom, or whatever I have to be.

[iPhone] 19:51:38

Anybody that knows me. anything about me knows that.

[iPhone] 19:51:44

I'm a guy of action. I'll fly there, I'll walk there, I'm downtown right now.

[iPhone] 19:51:49

And… and whether… and anybody will know that, whether… even if Jim calls me in the morning for… he has an issue or whatever.

[iPhone] 19:51:59

that he had, boom! I stop, I put something together.

[iPhone] 19:52:04

That's a fact, those are all truths. Anybody, whether it was Reyna, or whether it was Kim, or, you know, Brittany, or anybody that's out there.

[iPhone] 19:52:12

But I… because I truly will be there for you. I'm not just giving lip service.

[iPhone] 19:52:19

Because who are you gonna… who are you gonna call?

[iPhone] 19:52:21

Ghostbusters, when you go to these other groups. Uh, hey, let me call, uh, let me call Paul.

[iPhone] 19:52:27

Uh, oh, oh, Paul wants 90 bucks to speak to him? Oh, okay, set up an appointment. By that time, you're dead!

[iPhone] 19:52:33

How many times did you guys have… problems, and it had to be hot. Right then, right there, like a fireman.

[iPhone] 19:52:40

You know who you are, everybody knows that, and when you call me, I got into the… I got out, I slid down, I got into action, I put it together.

[iPhone] 19:52:48

And that's what we do! But you have to be your own… freelance mindset has to be aligned.

[iPhone] 19:52:59

And you have to be decisive. for that moment. Make your call.

[iPhone] 19:53:08

And live with it. So we need to get mini group.

[iPhone] 19:53:13

For credentials. And then… We need to get, I think what we should do is have.

[iPhone] 19:53:20

a meeting where everybody can be there, and I'll… we're gonna sit down.

[iPhone] 19:53:26

And we're going to… Um, discuss… Because, guys, everything's almost the same. The mortgage, the credit cards, the debt, it's almost all the same.

[iPhone] 19:53:37

It's, it's, uh, it's just… it's just different, uh, there's a slight differentiation on it. I'm not gonna tell you it's not.

[iPhone] 19:53:44

But it's almost the same, because. These are bad children!

[iPhone] 19:53:49

These are bad children. They're dead, they're dead children, as a matter of fact.

[iPhone] 19:53:54

And they're broke! So, throughout the years, hundreds of thousands of years of now.

[iPhone] 19:54:02

They've created a lot of ways to… Ask us how to get our money.

[iPhone] 19:54:09

But we forget… go ahead.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:54:09

Yeah, Chris, um, that… I think… I hate to say this, but… Um, you know, your example or your idea of going in.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:54:19

And on camera, doing the car thing, that's gotta be the first thing we do.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:54:24

I mean, I don't care…

[iPhone] 19:54:25

It's one of… it's one of them. It's one of them, because look.

[iPhone] 19:54:29

I'm not gonna be like Paul Michael selling the Lamborghini.

[iPhone] 19:54:32

theory here. I'm out here to make it happen, to show that it can happen. I did… I mean, I showed you my Aston Martin.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:54:35

No, but… no, but the thing is…

[iPhone] 19:54:40

the bill, uh, uh, that I had, whether you've seen it, I mean.

[iPhone] 19:54:45

But, you know, the problem is that every… here's the thing, when I show something like that.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:54:46

No, but the thing is…

[iPhone] 19:54:50

Then, it's like one of those infam commercials. We need to see more. We need to see more.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:54:54

No. No, because when you're actually in front of… you're gonna be in front of a person that pretty much 9 times out of 10, knows nothing, he's just pushing paperwork.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:55:05

But when you go… when they go behind the scenes, they got underwriters, banks, you're gonna be quoting law. I mean, there's gonna be so many different things happening at once.

[iPhone] 19:55:10

No, no, no, I get that. I get that, but that's not everything. I'll do that. I already said I'm gonna do it, but everybody else needs to move in unison.

[iPhone] 19:55:20

I'm gonna do it! I've been telling you I'm gonna do it, but I got, you know, I've been dealing with a lot of… a lot of, uh, people's issues in our group.

[iPhone] 19:55:30

And I… I'm not… and I put… I told you this today, Bar, I put myself last.

[iPhone] 19:55:35

I still got things I gotta do. I gotta take care of some… some people that, you know.

[iPhone] 19:55:41

that I have, and you… if anybody knows anything that's seen anything, you know.

[iPhone] 19:55:46

the leverage I have at Fidelity. You know! What you've seen, and it's not about bragging, it's just that those are facts.

[iPhone] 19:55:55

And I went through a very similar thing at Fidelity, like Jim did. That's why I knew how to do the mod felicio.

[iPhone] 19:56:02

fiduciary, and it's their own code. And now I'm gonna go back, and I'm gonna get, you know, my, uh, my stocks, and whatever else I have inside there, because, you know, I'm not gonna let… I'm not gonna let them steal from me.

[iPhone] 19:56:12

But again, I have to choose my battles. And everybody wants to see, you know, me walk on water.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:56:13

Mm-hmm.

[iPhone] 19:56:20

And, you know, get the picture, make it in, turn it into this, or whatever.

[iPhone] 19:56:24

Look! I never… I never said I was that guy. I'm just a guy, a man, doing… things that I've had very good… I've had… great results.

[iPhone] 19:56:42

And I'm looking for consistency. And every 1099 that I've done has come back, and I got transcripts, and I'm about to pull those in.

[iPhone] 19:56:51

I did 1.7, I got that letter back, I showed you that.

[iPhone] 19:56:55

I showed you the $1.3 million, that's coming back.

[iPhone] 19:56:59

Do you really believe that these… these… whatever these entities are, are not going to put up a fight to release 1,003, 1,007.

[iPhone] 19:57:07

I showed you the $11 million that I showed you, Ibarra.

[iPhone] 19:57:11

that I got back. And he said, why did you claim you made $11 million? Because you gotta play the game. I got $11 million that year.

[iPhone] 19:57:20

And I had to pay 4. So what? I discharged it, but I can go to a bank now.

[iPhone] 19:57:25

And I look like a star. And you gotta get credit.

[iPhone] 19:57:32

Credit and debt is great, it's good. Debt is money.

[iPhone] 19:57:36

The longer you hold on to your money, the longer it is… it is just… It's disappearing!

[iPhone] 19:57:43

And whether it's little or a lot, if your money's not working for you, then, you know.

[iPhone] 19:57:49

It's not. It's that simple. Uh, but anyhow, so we gotta do that, and I agree with you, Jason. I know it's a very good… it's a very hot topic, just like, you know, tickets.

[iPhone] 19:58:02

Um, you know, I got pulled over the other night again, and I taped it, you know, and I told the cop, I said.

[iPhone] 19:58:08

And next time I'm… next time I'm gonna arrest you, I said… I said, don't put me under duress. I said… I said, you need to leave and go do your job.

[iPhone] 19:58:15

Might put that out there. Go do your job!

[iPhone] 19:58:17

And then, you know what he did? Got in his nice little, you know, police vehicle, and they drove off.

[iPhone] 19:58:23

And then I drove off. You better not drive off, or we're gonna arrest you. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, you put him under arrest, take off, you need to go to your job. And then I took off, right behind him.

[iPhone] 19:58:33

I mean, these jokers… Um, but, uh, does anybody have questions? Uh… Before I leave, but we will have a meeting.

[iPhone] 19:58:46

We need to make sure that everybody's gonna be there. That is the key, because I… there's… this is going to be probably one of the most important meetings. If you want to take care of your utilities, if you want to take care of your credit cards.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:58:51

Great, positive result.

[iPhone] 19:58:57

Whether you're in a courtroom or whether whatever, these are all techniques you're gonna use.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:59:00

Yeah, Chris, we… when we were waiting for you to come out of D2.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:59:06

Um, we talked about some stuff, and you just hit upon something that I think it went… over my head, and I don't know if anybody else caught it.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:59:15

But you were talking about the rescission thing. Um… What are you talking about, the 72 hours, and when have you… who in this group… has experienced that, or used that?

[iPhone] 19:59:18

Yes.

[iPhone] 19:59:29

Well, the rescission is in the playbook. Like, let's say you're going… you're buying a car.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:59:36

It gives Walther the really…

[iPhone] 19:59:36

They ran your credit. They… that's your credit card right there.

[iPhone] 19:59:40

They'd cook your money. Does everybody understand that they took your money when they ran your credit?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:59:46

Yes. On Friday, let's take a look.

[iPhone] 19:59:47

Okay, so that means they deny me credit. Let's say I have a 300 FICO score.

[iPhone] 19:59:52

We denied you credit. I'm gonna say, nah, no, no, no, you can't deny me credit. Here's a letter. They read the letter.

[iPhone] 19:59:59

They go back. Right after that, I give them a rescission letter.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:00:00

I think Stanford. on Halloween, while it.

[iPhone] 20:00:04

Boom! You have 72 hours to balance the bush. I'm coming back from my vehicles.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:00:05

Western Carolina-facing Little People from the party. on Friday, and…

[iPhone] 20:00:09

Once the books are balanced, the vehicle is paced.

[iPhone] 20:00:14

Is it zero? That's how it works.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:00:17

Well, what if you had a 750 credit score, and they approved you?

[iPhone] 20:00:22

You then, you give them the letter of rescission.

[iPhone] 20:00:25

And you tell them to balance the books. to zero. Everything's about settle and closure.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:00:26

Same thing. Same thing, doesn't matter.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:00:31

We'll see you again for more SoCon women's soccer on hand.

[iPhone] 20:00:35

Remember, we're not here for controversy. We're not here to argue. We know who we are, there's no ifs or buts about it.

[iPhone] 20:00:42

Yeah, she ran my credit. And, uh, I get it.

[iPhone] 20:00:46

But here's the letter that tells you that I know.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:00:49

I think Continental is the smart choice in time. Thank you for calling me going.

[luke ] 20:00:51

Bruce, we could do that on a pre… Mortgage approval, in theory, then?

[iPhone] 20:00:55

That is correct. That's right, a million, whatever it is.

[luke ] 20:00:57

For 500 grand.

[iPhone] 20:01:01

That's your credit. That's your credit, guys. When you put that signature on there.

[luke ] 20:01:01

Holy shit, though.

[iPhone] 20:01:07

It's yours! When they run your social security number, they always ask you what's your mother's maiden name, because she's the grantor of your birth certificate bond.

[iPhone] 20:01:16

You don't even need to get into sovereignty or birth certificates, all you have to do is hand them that that has all the codes that I put out there on that rescission letter.

[iPhone] 20:01:25

And they're on… they're… they're hit, they can go to prison!

[iPhone] 20:01:29

If they don't balance the books, because you resend.

[luke ] 20:01:29

crazy.

[iPhone] 20:01:34

that right then and there, within 72 hours. It's no different than when… I don't know if you guys remember when they used to have timeshares. They used to tell you, uh, you know, uh.

[iPhone] 20:01:43

You can't get people wine. Uh, and you have 72 hours after signing.

[iPhone] 20:01:50

to rescind it. That's what it's about.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:01:56

Um, you're Senate… you have to send it to the right person, though. Couldn't they play games?

[iPhone] 20:02:01

If you're sitting… if you're… no, they can't play games. Listen.

[iPhone] 20:02:03

If you sit in front of a loan officer.

[iPhone] 20:02:07

They're gonna come back and tell you. that the underwriter said this, then you're gonna hand them the letter, and you're gonna say, you need to send this to the underwriter, there's liability.

[iPhone] 20:02:17

At this point. The underwriter will read it. They're on notice. Let's play devil's advocate, they don't do it.

[iPhone] 20:02:25

Right away, you go and you file a civil action.

[iPhone] 20:02:30

Uh, immediately, with all those rules and all those laws, because, uh, you're not… it's illegal, it's unlawful to deny somebody credit. It just is, it's… Under the Equal Opportunity Act.

[iPhone] 20:02:42

Under HDR192, I suggest you guys read what I put out there.

[iPhone] 20:02:46

So that you can get clarification and have first-hand personal knowledge yourself.

[iPhone] 20:02:51

I put everything out there. Everything.

[iPhone] 20:02:56

Including the fraud of the utilities.

[iPhone] 20:03:01

Those utilities are licensed. to collect money.

[iPhone] 20:03:06

If you take your picture of your gas meter or your electrical meter, and you put it in a UCC1.

[iPhone] 20:03:13

And you notice that company who's handling. collections for you.

[iPhone] 20:03:19

that you're the secured party, it's over for them.

[Kimberly Byrd] 20:03:25

Hmm.

[iPhone] 20:03:26

You own it. Don't you guys know that energy is free?

[Jason Ibarra] 20:03:33

That… I do for sure, and there's… tons of things out there that show you that, but… that… that doesn't mean, you know, we're also… I mean, utility companies are… pretty huge entities.

[iPhone] 20:03:44

And that's it. There's no ads, there's no buts, it's right there.

[iPhone] 20:03:49

I've done it, you can do it. It's right there.

[iPhone] 20:03:52

I did go to jail for 4 or 5 hours.

[iPhone] 20:03:55

Uh, for making my stand. I did not have utility… for almost 60 days, but I withstood my ground.

[iPhone] 20:04:02

And I did everything that I told you. But if you're not willing to stand on the battlefield, and you're not a warrior, then, you know, don't do it!

[Jason Ibarra] 20:04:12

Um, and Chris, the other thing we talked about while we were waiting for you to come out of D2 was, um, just out of curiosity.

[iPhone] 20:04:12

Don't do it.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:04:20

Is it… I don't know, we don't need to know the details, but… that one girl that was running around Switzerland, I mean, didn't… she was… wasn't she, like, filling out UCC1s against Pfizer and… Bill Gates Foundations?

[iPhone] 20:04:34

Well, I know she was doing a lot of things.

[iPhone] 20:04:39

And, um… I do believe, and I told you this before, I'm not trying to be… religious about this.

[iPhone] 20:04:48

But I do believe that if your heart. In your mind, are not in sync.

[iPhone] 20:04:55

then… I don't care how great your credentials are.

[iPhone] 20:05:01

I don't believe… shit will work for you.

[iPhone] 20:05:05

And I know for a long time, I got results, and then I was like, you know.

[iPhone] 20:05:11

in a dry spell. And I started wondering. Why? What?

[iPhone] 20:05:15

Because I was angry, vengeful. I'm gonna get these guys… And I barely started, you know, the last… And, you know, you've seen my transition, uh, Ibarra.

[iPhone] 20:05:29

I'm a work in progress. And if it wasn't for the grace of all of you.

[iPhone] 20:05:36

And this group. to help me see that.

[iPhone] 20:05:41

Because each one of you are… Man, I gotta tell you, you're all great souls.

[iPhone] 20:05:48

you all… you all make me feel like it's all worth doing.

[iPhone] 20:05:52

And, um, I got life. In spite of everything that I've lost.

[iPhone] 20:05:58

I have gained a new family. And… I'm grateful.

[iPhone] 20:06:05

So, let's do what we say we're gonna do.

[iPhone] 20:06:10

And let's… let's remember one thing in closing. All we got is what we got here. For those of you that are here, you're here because.

[iPhone] 20:06:20

We were all here chosen. And there was a lot of people here before, all of us.

[iPhone] 20:06:27

in this group, that are no longer here. And that's… that makes all of you very special, for whatever reason.

[iPhone] 20:06:35

there's a higher power that has allowed us to work together.

[iPhone] 20:06:39

with Kindred spirits and souls. It's probably not the first time we've gathered together, but… let's get it right this time.

[iPhone] 20:06:49

And, um, let's… let's… let's do things, not in vengeance.

[iPhone] 20:06:54

But let's do things to bring… harmony and balance.

[iPhone] 20:06:59

So that we can lead by an example. And this group will change the world.

[iPhone] 20:07:05

Not rule the world, change the world. So, um, all right, so you guys get together, you decide when you're gonna, you know, get that mini group. Everybody needs to start working on their credentials. Come on, guys.

[iPhone] 20:07:14

I know everybody's busy, but let's do it. And then, after that, we'll have the next meeting. I'll go through everything so that you guys can know how to take care of your credit card, your mortgages, and all that stuff.

[iPhone] 20:07:25

And Kim and Raina, by that time, we'll share more of where we're at on our journey with what we're doing.

[iPhone] 20:07:31

We're shaking up… we are shaking up. Uh, the jungle right now.

[iPhone] 20:07:39

All right, guys, any questions? All right, hey, look.

[Kimberly Byrd] 20:07:42

No, thank you.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:07:44

If we do…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:07:44

Thank you.

[iPhone] 20:07:47

stick together, guys, it's all we have. I mean… I don't want to be wrong.

[iPhone] 20:07:52

I want to be… I feel really great about our group.

[iPhone] 20:07:56

I told Jason today, I said, one thing that Jason and I, you know, even before the group.

[iPhone] 20:08:03

One of the things that I can always count on, and I think Jason told me the same thing, was that.

[iPhone] 20:08:10

Consistency. I don't have… I'm not always in a good mood.

[iPhone] 20:08:14

Sometimes I'm… some of you will hear me yelling at my Jason.

[iPhone] 20:08:18

And I'm, you know, but that's my passion. And what you see is what you get.

[iPhone] 20:08:26

I'm not those guys that are coming on and going like.

[iPhone] 20:08:29

That's right, here we are today, we're gonna do this. No, I'm not that guy. If you're looking for that guy, there's other guys out there that do that. I'm not.

[iPhone] 20:08:36

If you're looking for guys that are gonna set up, you know, the big enchiladas and all these meetings and all this stuff, that's not me.

[iPhone] 20:08:42

But… I'm good with the people that I have in this… in this group.

[iPhone] 20:08:49

Might be… might be small in numbers. But it's large in quantity of… of souls. Um… So, um, I'll leave it on that. My battery's going dead.

[iPhone] 20:09:02

badge going dead. And then, I'll see you guys next time, guys.

[Kimberly Byrd] 20:09:05

All right, thank you. Good night.

[iPhone] 20:09:05

Peace out. Bye-bye.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:09:07

Thank you, Chris.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:09:08

Hey, Tom.

[james] 20:09:08

figure…

[Chris Nero] 20:09:09

All right, so is everybody gonna stay, or what is this?

[Nicole Pacheco] 20:09:12

Thank you.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:09:13

Um, I'm gonna create a little pool to see when everybody wants to meet again, so we can have the meeting that Cree just spoke about.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:09:16

Oh, no.

[Kimberly Byrd] 20:09:24

with some water?

[Jason Ibarra] 20:09:25

Hey, who has a parrot?

[Nicole Pacheco] 20:09:28

I think that's all taken.

[Chris Nero] 20:09:29

I have a kid.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:09:31

Oh, I thought I heard a parrot in the background. Did that… Nicole, that wasn't a parrot?

[Chris Nero] 20:09:36

None of my kids' toys.

[Nicole Pacheco] 20:09:37

No, I don't have a parrot.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:09:40

Maybe somebody needs to get one.

[Chris Nero] 20:09:44

What? Why would we get a parrot? I already have two cats and a dog.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:09:48

I think Rena needs one, actually.

[Chris Nero] 20:09:50

Raina needs a pair. There you go, Reyna!

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:09:52

I had a cut.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:09:55

I don't need no more.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:09:56

Oh. You had a what? A cut?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:09:58

Mm-hmm. Cat.

[Chris Nero] 20:10:00

Cat…

[Jason Ibarra] 20:10:01

Okay, well, a cat can't talk. A parrot can.

[Chris Nero] 20:10:06

I used to have a Raven… not a Raven, it was… I don't remember, but it was, kind of like a raven that used to talk, and then my mom killed it when she was pregnant.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:10:14

Oh, boy. That sounds bad. Okay. So, um, so, Rena, instead of creating a poll, can't we just… figure it out right now?

[Chris Nero] 20:10:17

Asian people are crazy.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:10:26

Yeah, Liz, go ahead, everybody.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:10:29

No offense, but the polls…

[Nicole Pacheco] 20:10:32

The poll was to… is it for the topic that we're gonna discuss first?

[Jason Ibarra] 20:10:36

No, no, it's the, um… credential thing Chris wanted to do.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:10:39

the whole…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:10:41

the utilities and all these things is credentials, everybody should have all the information for the credentials. We just gotta work together, guys, on that.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:10:50

Well, that's what he just… That's what it's for, uh, Rena. He's not talking about the utilities, the car, the mortgage.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:10:50

Like, all the information is out there.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:10:58

That's after the fact. He… that's what he just said, to do a mini… a mini-group.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:11:01

Hmm, okay.

[Chris Nero] 20:11:09

Oh, okay.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:11:09

Which is… which… That's… yeah, for, like, for, like, people like Allie and Jim.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:11:16

Um, that are working on it right now. So we can kind of… Yes, it's to catch up, everyone. And then he mentioned you, Kimberly.

[Chris Nero] 20:11:19

So everyone can catch up.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:11:26

and Luke. Because you guys have done it all.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:11:27

Okay.

[Chris Nero] 20:11:29

And if anyone… sorry to interrupt, but does anyone in the group know how to shorten videos, like, compress the file?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:11:37

You can… you can do that in, um, in a PDF, if you have the file. There's an option to compress the files.

[Chris Nero] 20:11:43

No, no, the video, the video file.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:11:44

Oh, no. Come on, Rena.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:11:46

Oh, the videos.

[Chris Nero] 20:11:51

That's true, because I'm trying… I have that one, but it's such a big file, it won't go… it won't be… it can't be sent to Google, nothing. Too big of a fucking fire, and it's being a pain in the ass.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:11:51

I mean…

[Chris Nero] 20:12:05

But if not, it's okay. I'll figure it out. I'll watch it.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:12:05

Um, what… what… What video are you trying to… Well, very…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:12:06

Jason is that tech guy.

[Chris Nero] 20:12:12

The video that Raina explained us, that one… that one meeting that was all run by, uh, Reyna, and she's explaining all the, um… credentials and everything in there as well.

[Ally] 20:12:22

Yeah, that was what really made the difference was… Raina's explanation. The slideshows are great.

[Ally] 20:12:31

But, yeah, the video with her exclamation.

[Chris Nero] 20:12:33

No, you gotta go in depth with it, and… I was just having a difficult time trying to compress without… losing the file.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:12:41

Well, and I suggest… Um, you just hire a professional to get it done?

[Chris Nero] 20:12:49

You think my dad's gonna allow that? Okay.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:12:51

You can do a shared drive video, like, just…

[Chris Nero] 20:12:54

They said, I'm the professional. do it.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:12:57

Create a link and, you know, just share it, like, share it from the drive.

[Chris Nero] 20:13:00

Maybe Dropbox. Yeah, okay. Alright, um, did you guys figure out, uh, when you guys want to meet next?

[Jason Ibarra] 20:13:11

I think Kimberly should, um… should… should do it. She should run it, because, uh, Kimberly always changes the meetings.

[Kimberly Byrd] 20:13:22

I'm not changing them anymore, for sure. I'm available.

[Chris Nero] 20:13:25

You see? You see what happens? They will never let you live this down. For the next 5 years.

[Kimberly Byrd] 20:13:29

I know.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:13:32

Okay, so the question…

[Chris Nero] 20:13:33

Let's 5 meetings.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:13:36

Go ahead, Jason.

[Chris Nero] 20:13:40

Me?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:13:42

So the question will be…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:13:44

Guys, you want to do it on a Friday, Saturday, or Sunday? Let's start from there.

[Nicole Pacheco] 20:13:52

Saturday

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:13:55

Everybody? Saturday?

[Kimberly Byrd] 20:13:57

Saturday's fine with me.

[Ally] 20:13:58

Uh, Saturday after 6, or before 1, otherwise Sunday is better for me.

[Ally] 20:14:05

But I'm good with, like, after 6, even.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:14:07

After 6, uh, Eastern Time?

[Kimberly Byrd] 20:14:10

Pizza! I'm good.

[Ally] 20:14:13

That would be after 8

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:14:18

Hmm.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:14:19

Jim?

[james] 20:14:21

You guys talk at Eastern, or… what…

[Kimberly Byrd] 20:14:25

Yeah, good. Anytime's good for me.

[Ally] 20:14:26

It'd be after 8…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:14:26

It would be…

[james] 20:14:29

8 Eastern time? Sunday's… I like Sunday.

[Ally] 20:14:31

Yeah.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:14:31

It would… it would be 8 o'clock.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:14:34

For Eastern Time.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:14:35

Sunday?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:14:39

Sunday, what time?

[james] 20:14:42

7 or 8.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:14:42

6…

[Ally] 20:14:44

Anytime Sunday

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:14:46

He says, yeah, we can do sticks.

[Nicole Pacheco] 20:14:50

Sunday at 8, then.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:14:54

I'm 50-50 on that day, but that's okay. You guys, the majority wins.

[james] 20:15:01

I don't care.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:15:02

Your 50-50 for Sunday or Saturday?

[Jason Ibarra] 20:15:05

Well, yeah, he just switched it to Sunday, so 50-50 on Sunday, but like I said.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:15:12

Um, the majority, you know, has to get this done, so the majority wins.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:15:16

Okay.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:15:18

So…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:15:21

Sunday…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:15:23

8 o'clock Eastern Time.

[Ally] 20:15:26

8 p.m. Okay.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:15:28

Yes, or 6 p.m.

[Ally] 20:15:32

We didn't… I mean, I… I'm available earlier, too, if earlier is better for people, but yeah, Abe's fine with me, too. I'm an evening… night person.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:15:40

Okay. So everybody's okay 06?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:15:44

Eastern Time, or it's Eastern Time?

[Kimberly Byrd] 20:15:46

Yes. Either one, good for me.

[Ally] 20:15:49

How… what? Okay, next Sunday.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:15:49

Alright, let's do 6, then, because someone else has some hot kids, you know?

[Kimberly Byrd] 20:15:51

Okay.

[Ally] 20:15:54

Yeah, 60 by 11.

[james] 20:15:55

Sunday's next, Eastern.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:15:58

6 o'clock Eastern Time.

[Ally] 20:16:00

Does that work with you, James?

[james] 20:16:00

Okay, Sunday.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:16:02

On Sunday, this Sunday…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:16:04

uh, coming, I think it's the second?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:16:06

Missing.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:16:12

Yes, Sunday will be the second.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:16:15

November 2nd.

[Chris Nero] 20:16:17

Dang, that's already…

[Jason Ibarra] 20:16:17

It's, um… It's Daylight Savings Time this weekend coming up, too, don't forget.

[Chris Nero] 20:16:24

Wait, Arizona doesn't.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:16:24

It's the second week.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:16:25

Saving time is the second week.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:16:28

No, it's not. That was, like, 5 years ago. It's next weekend.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:16:28

Second Sunday. Second Sunday, do!

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:16:37

Yeah, next weekend, did I?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:16:48

Okay, so we said on Sunday?

[Kimberly Byrd] 20:16:51

Yes.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:16:52

Six being, November 2nd.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:16:55

Uh, Jason, can you let Chris know?

[Chris Nero] 20:16:58

Yep, I can let him know Sunday he's usually okay. I'm okay, uh… I'm okay around that time anyway, because I'm out of church and everything.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:17:05

Yeah, so that we…

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:17:07

That would be 3 o'clock for you.

[Chris Nero] 20:17:10

Okay, perfect. Bye. Bye

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:17:11

All right. Thank you, everybody.

[Kimberly Byrd] 20:17:15

Thank you