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Chris Nero Meeting June 30-2025

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[iPhone] 19:00:00

Right?

[Chris Nero] 19:00:02

I don't know what you're talking about. I heard nothing. As far as everyone knows, I'm stupid.

[iPhone] 19:00:06

Hey, so, um…. Jason, stop.

[iPhone] 19:00:12

Telling truth-drops. The opposite.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:13

Hey, you're cutting in and out.

[iPhone] 19:00:17

All right, so…. Um, is Howard here?

[iPhone] 19:00:24

Howard?

[Chris Nero] 19:00:25

No. No.

[MARCUS MCGOWAN] 19:00:26

No, not yet. There's only 4 of us on here right now.

[iPhone] 19:00:29

Okay, well, I'm hoping that Howard shows up, because this is, like, the Howard Pease Show.

[iPhone] 19:00:35

You know, Howard…. Was, you know, thinking that.

[Chris Nero] 19:00:39

Keisha just showed up.

[iPhone] 19:00:39

For the last week. The last meeting was, like, the last meeting and the one before, of course, because, you know, I don't know how many more times I can.

[iPhone] 19:00:50

Keep on preaching to get the credentials done when everybody wants to go out there and just, you know.

[iPhone] 19:00:56

Slip out the back door, like, oh, God's children who crept out to play.

[iPhone] 19:01:04

Not having their credentials ready. It's like, you know, I tell you.

[iPhone] 19:01:07

It's no different than the Gestapo days, when they pulled you over, and they said, you got your papers?

[iPhone] 19:01:11

Are they in order? Repeats itself.

[iPhone] 19:01:19

Jason, I know you're recording this.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:24

No, yeah, not tell everyone is. Do you want me to start now?

[iPhone] 19:01:29

No, I'll wait.

[Chris Nero] 19:01:31

Okay. Last person that was in is Ibotta.

[iPhone] 19:01:34

I'm only gonna…. You borrow, you're late.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:01:42

Sorry. Yeah, one minute wait, my bad.

[iPhone] 19:01:49

Yeah, but you thought I was gonna be late, didn't you, Jason?

[Chris Nero] 19:01:50

How dare you?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:01:53

Yeah, somebody made a…. Somebody made a comment last time, so I was just copying them.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:01:59

You know what happens when you copy?

[iPhone] 19:02:03

But Jason, did you guys have any bets in Vegas that I was gonna be late again?

[Chris Nero] 19:02:04

Uh-oh.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:13

Uh, that's a negative.

[iPhone] 19:02:15

But yeah, you were late.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:19

Yes. It was all… it was all Rena's fault, to be honest.

[iPhone] 19:02:24

Man, Raina was on time.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:28

Well, of course, she probably set me up.

[Chris Nero] 19:02:30

She was early.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:35

Okay.

[iPhone] 19:02:35

Hey, Raina. Raina, how are you?

[Chris Nero] 19:02:44

Steven just joined.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:45

See? See, Rena knows she's guilty. Silence… silence is….

[iPhone] 19:02:50

Guilty, the first degree. Golden.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:55

Acquiescence.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:02:59

Defaulter. Just….

[Chris Nero] 19:03:00

Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver.

[iPhone] 19:03:01

It's… it's… it's tacit. Tacit procuration.

[iPhone] 19:03:12

Okay, so…. We're gonna go through….

[iPhone] 19:03:17

The new, improved. Jason Ibarra….

[iPhone] 19:03:23

Who put together the. Credential package….

[iPhone] 19:03:30

Um, with…. Well, Jason, you organized it.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:03:30

Uh, excuse me?

[Chris Nero] 19:03:35

You're cutting in and out, Dad.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:03:38

I thought this was about Howard's…. Package.

[iPhone] 19:03:41

Well, yeah, but if Howard doesn't show up. Then this is gonna be the….

[Chris Nero] 19:03:46

No, you're… I didn't know.

[iPhone] 19:03:47

This is gonna be… this is gonna be the final, final.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:03:52

Oh, gosh. I wasn't ready for that, but….

[iPhone] 19:03:56

Come on, Jason, what are you, sick? Is that what's going on? Why do you… why do you have that….

[iPhone] 19:04:02

Black Sea Plazidasical attitude.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:04:09

Uh, plead the Fifth.

[iPhone] 19:04:11

It's probably got your blood…. Bonds.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:15

There's only 8 people in here.

[iPhone] 19:04:24

Got such a late start today, you know.

[Chris Nero] 19:04:35

Well, you woke up at 5 instead of 4.

[iPhone] 19:04:40

Yes, that's true. That's so true.

[iPhone] 19:04:48

Yeah, it was up before the dawn.

[iPhone] 19:04:53

I was drinking a protein drink.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:02

Okay, um, I'm gonna text one more time in the chat.

[iPhone] 19:05:06

Text Howard….

[Chris Nero] 19:05:11

On it.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:05:12

Come on, Howard.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:05:13

So excited for today, Chris!

[iPhone] 19:05:17

Hey, is that Raina?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:05:19

Yes, yes, that's me.

[Chris Nero] 19:05:20

Yes.

[iPhone] 19:05:21

Hey, Raina. How are you?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:05:26

I'm doing fantastic.

[iPhone] 19:05:30

Fantastic. That should be my…. You know, like, my new model, except, you know, like, you know, the way Paul's like, uh, amazing! I'm like, my fantastic!

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:05:43

But you're so unique. Chris.

[iPhone] 19:05:46

Thank you, Raina. Thank you so much. I'd appreciate it. Hey, Barra, you sound….

[Jason Ibarra] 19:05:48

That would be terrible.

[iPhone] 19:05:54

Think you're ill. Set your… that's your voice going out?

[iPhone] 19:05:59

What's going on? Jason?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:06:02

Yeah, I told you, it was Raya's fault.

[iPhone] 19:06:05

Get that… you need to get the God particle or something in you.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:06:12

Planning on me, Jason, that's okay. I give you the remedy.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:06:16

Ginger with honey and lime.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:06:20

You're gonna take that over the guard particle?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:06:24

What? Not for you throw, so you can feel better.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:06:26

Exactly.

[iPhone] 19:06:27

You're gonna take all that. Boy, why don't you just drink some turpentine?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:06:31

I got…. I have the God particle at Turpentine.

[Chris Nero] 19:06:39

Oh, yeah, my dad drinks poison.

[iPhone] 19:06:43

Jason, what did I tell you earlier? Why are you talking about? The next thing you're gonna tell them I'm drinking snake venom.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:06:44

Boys into who?

[Chris Nero] 19:06:53

Ah, I, uh, don't know what you're talking about. I know nothing.

[iPhone] 19:06:56

Killing those rattlesnakes. Like Billy Jack.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:01

Oh, I got a new one for you!

[iPhone] 19:07:06

Yeah, Jason just killed another rattler in the backyard.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:07:12

They bite, be careful.

[Chris Nero] 19:07:16

That's why I'm killing him.

[iPhone] 19:07:18

They're scared of me, Raina.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:07:20

I know that, Chris!

[iPhone] 19:07:23

They're… I… I actually thought. See, I'm so sheltered.

[iPhone] 19:07:29

And naive. That I… that when I went back there, and I was….

[iPhone] 19:07:34

And when I was in my garage and there was a rattler in there.

[iPhone] 19:07:37

I thought it was, like, scared of me. Because it was rattling, and Jason goes, and he jumps in there, and he smashes it.

[iPhone] 19:07:47

And he saves me from it.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:07:50

Aww, what a twist story!

[iPhone] 19:07:52

But I thought…. But I thought….

[Chris Nero] 19:07:53

I thought we were talking about. Yeah, this is a real true story.

[iPhone] 19:07:56

But he's, like, he's not scared of you, Dad, and I go, he's scared! Look, he's shaking! I can hear him!

[iPhone] 19:08:04

Because it's erratic…. It's a rattler! I go, that's what they do. I go, no, he's freaking scared.

[Chris Nero] 19:08:05

He was too dead to be scared.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:08:12

I just froze, and they froze too, so I don't know if they froze because of me or I froze because of them, but we both froze.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:08:20

And literally, like, my husband had to pull me out of it.

[iPhone] 19:08:20

No, I walked right over it. I'm walking, it's like, you know, and I thought.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:08:22

Because I couldn't move. That's, like, my brain….

[iPhone] 19:08:29

At first, I thought it was, like, is that my… is that air coming out of my tire? Because in the garage, it's very….

[iPhone] 19:08:36

Controlled the…. Sound, and I don't know, it just sounded, like, to me like air, like….

[Chris Nero] 19:08:41

Give me one sec.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:08:44

It's crazy, gotta be careful, be careful.

[iPhone] 19:08:48

Yeah, not to mention the bobcat that was in my….

[Chris Nero] 19:08:50

Yeah, I had a dog who got bit by a rat, so I was thinking the face.

[iPhone] 19:08:54

And I was cleaning my pool, and I saw the bobcat on my fence.

[iPhone] 19:08:58

Just looking at him. Gauge in him.

[iPhone] 19:09:04

Interesting.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:09:06

And my husband doesn't want me to chase anything on this house, because he says that every time I chase something, I end up breaking everything in the house.

[iPhone] 19:09:15

Yeah, like a hornet. I mean, I've had a lot of weird things. I mean, remember we tried to kill the hornets, and then Jason got hit.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:27

Yeah, why am I always getting hurt?

[iPhone] 19:09:29

And then I came home, and there was a dove. In my, uh….

[iPhone] 19:09:35

My sanctuary where my candles are at, sitting there. Morning, Doug.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:41

And he picked it up, bare hands. Didn't move, it didn't shake, it didn't fly away, or anything.

[Chris Nero] 19:09:48

Picked it up bare hands. Put it outside on the floor, and then, like, I can't do that, hold on, and then goes back outside, picks it up, and puts it back in its nest.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:09:50

That's guts, man.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:09:59

Ugh. You got guts, Chris.

[iPhone] 19:10:03

That was a dove! I mean, come on, Jason's chasing in with the bull net.

[iPhone] 19:10:09

I'm like, no. No. I got a picture of it. Jason, Ibarra, you can attest to that, right? I sent you the picture, right?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:10:19

Oh, the rattlesnake?

[iPhone] 19:10:20

No, Jason, the dove.

[Chris Nero] 19:10:22

No, no, no.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:10:24

The dove. Yeah, I think I had the dove somewhere.

[iPhone] 19:10:27

Yes. Jason's my witness. I'm gonna have them fill out a giratte.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:10:35

Well, I can say… oh, I can say, uh, the Mosan allows to chase is flies in my house.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:10:36

That's direct.

[iPhone] 19:10:36

Okay.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:10:44

That's it.

[iPhone] 19:10:46

Well, I don't like flies, so I would chase them myself.

[iPhone] 19:10:51

For sure. Okay, so how many people do we have? Because we're going to start recording.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:10:51

Yeah.

[Chris Nero] 19:10:58

How many nine?

[iPhone] 19:10:59

And Howard, did you… did you email Howard? Or catch… or texted him WhatsApp, and what do you hear?

[Chris Nero] 19:11:03

I texted him.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:10

Nothing, nothing, no, nothing. I'm gonna text in the group one last time.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:11:21

Oh, this doesn't make any sense.

[iPhone] 19:11:24

Doesn't make any sense.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:11:30

I mean, shoot, this is like… this is a quick…. Hey, maybe we should do one of these meetings where we call up the IRS for someone. I'll volunteer myself for that.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:31

It's easier to ask my question.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:11:45

No, that wasn't a joke.

[Chris Nero] 19:11:47

Yeah, if you're willing to wait 4 hours.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:11:52

Well, I'm just saying.

[iPhone] 19:11:53

Yeah. Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, you know, you can do it, but you've got to be on there for, like, a while.

[iPhone] 19:11:58

Okay, so let's… let's go ahead, let's… let's begin.

[Chris Nero] 19:12:03

Alyssa just came in. Okay, I'm recording now. Give me one sec….

[iPhone] 19:12:06

Who came in?

[Chris Nero] 19:12:10

Uh, oh, Shartina just came in, too. Alyssa and Sartina.

[iPhone] 19:12:17

I'm at the courthouse where I live. See? Courthouse.

[iPhone] 19:12:26

The beautiful courthouse. You ever notice, like, in the Matrix.

[Chris Nero] 19:12:28

What the heck?

[iPhone] 19:12:34

That it looks like a courthouse, or it looks like…. Prison yard, or whatever.

[iPhone] 19:12:43

And he's dressed like a priest, because he's…. You know, he's a minister.

[iPhone] 19:12:49

Like me, I'm a minister. Been a minister now for….

[iPhone] 19:12:56

I don't know, what, 7 years? I'm in my 7-year anniversary.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:13:04

You can move that to the private as well, right, Chris?

[iPhone] 19:13:09

I can… I'm sorry? What's that?

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:13:12

The… being a minister, because I'm a minister as well, and I was just asking, you can put that in the private as well.

[iPhone] 19:13:19

Yes, you gotta, like, whatever they've given you, when they… they give you, like, a minister….

[iPhone] 19:13:25

See, I haven't ministered, like, free paths for parking? So, I used it.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:13:27

Yeah.

[iPhone] 19:13:33

From time to time…. I need it. Oh, there's my phone, I gotta take that to me.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:42

There you go.

[Chris Nero] 19:13:49

Dad, it's recording.

[iPhone] 19:13:51

Oh, honey. So, um, what we're gonna do today….

[iPhone] 19:13:59

There's my milestone card, look.

[iPhone] 19:14:05

Um, what we're gonna do today is we're gonna…. As most people keep saying.

[iPhone] 19:14:11

Man, it sounds like the same…. You know, thing, but it's gonna be the same thing, because, you know, we don't have people that are shooting out their credentials at this point, and.

[iPhone] 19:14:21

Um, I want… I want people to do it so that when they get pulled over.

[iPhone] 19:14:26

Um, then they don't have problems, because they could just go in.

[iPhone] 19:14:30

And they can handle their own business, that way they don't have to call me.

[iPhone] 19:14:34

You know, charge them, because I'm the cheapest guy in town.

[iPhone] 19:14:40

Yet, you know…. I'm not.

[iPhone] 19:14:44

So…. I want to start off with….

[iPhone] 19:14:50

There's… there's… I had a call earlier today. And it's about a guy.

[iPhone] 19:14:55

Who…. And I'm not gonna… I'm not gonna mention.

[luke ] 19:14:59

There's the resources left.

[iPhone] 19:14:59

I'm not gonna mention any names, but…. He paid for a big enchilada.

[iPhone] 19:15:08

Type of program.

[luke ] 19:15:10

Is that correct? And then here's the brownie concrete. Do you want a receipt? No. Alright, have a good one.

[iPhone] 19:15:25

Jason, did you mute me?

[Chris Nero] 19:15:29

Accidentally, I unmuted you. Um, I was trying to mute someone else.

[iPhone] 19:15:31

Don't never… don't ever mute me. Okay, so listen.

[Chris Nero] 19:15:35

I was trying to

[iPhone] 19:15:36

And… and there's a lot of groups. Out there. Hold on.

[iPhone] 19:15:45

Just for the record. There's a lot of groups out there, and even though I have.

[iPhone] 19:15:50

A lot on my plate, which is true. And, um, I have nothing but time on my hands, because, you know.

[iPhone] 19:16:00

I'm Bruce Wayne, and uh…. I really don't… I really don't do anything.

[iPhone] 19:16:08

Other than just, you know, each state. And protein shakes and enjoy my life.

[iPhone] 19:16:14

That's all I do. But…. All that aside.

[iPhone] 19:16:20

I watch a lot of the groups that are out there on the internet.

[iPhone] 19:16:23

And on YouTube and whatnot, and…. Even though I have my opinion.

[iPhone] 19:16:30

I like to mine my own business, but I know them all.

[iPhone] 19:16:36

Um, and I think there's some people here that know that.

[iPhone] 19:16:40

And I could show you, I get emails from Andy, and….

[iPhone] 19:16:44

Uh, there's some from Christina, and then there's some from…. Yusuf, and….

[iPhone] 19:16:50

Um…. I mean, just, you know.

[iPhone] 19:16:53

Brandon, Joe Williams, I mean, I've sent him some stuff. Because he's, you know, doing some crazy shit.

[iPhone] 19:17:01

And only because I cared too much, but then…. I'm like, I pull back.

[iPhone] 19:17:06

So I just mind my own business. And I think a lot of times, there's people out there that.

[iPhone] 19:17:13

They have good intentions.

[iPhone] 19:17:19

Um, but as my grandmother used to say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and.

[iPhone] 19:17:24

I think if you get too big. Um, at some point.

[iPhone] 19:17:31

Then you can't really help out. And I know…. With everybody that I have out here.

[iPhone] 19:17:40

That it's…. It's never, like, a case, it's never, like, it just….

[iPhone] 19:17:47

And it keeps growing and going and going, because that's what happens.

[iPhone] 19:17:52

But the end game…. Is always going to be when they incriminate themselves. They being….

[iPhone] 19:18:00

Uh, the court, the judge. And I have the… the end game at this point, but you gotta….

[iPhone] 19:18:08

You gotta give them the breadcrumbs. And you have to be….

[iPhone] 19:18:14

The one that's coming in, like, you know, lackadaisical, like, I don't have a….

[iPhone] 19:18:18

I don't have a… I don't know what's going on, you know, you're playing, you know, stupid.

[iPhone] 19:18:24

You're as wise as a serpent, but as peaceful as a dove.

[iPhone] 19:18:28

Anyways….

[iPhone] 19:18:33

It's a difficult game, folks. That you guys have entered into.

[iPhone] 19:18:41

And if you're chosen, and you know you're chosen. Then you're here.

[iPhone] 19:18:46

But if you think that freedom is free, then…. You're wrong. Um….

[iPhone] 19:18:52

You have to be able to know that you're in for a battle.

[iPhone] 19:18:57

And… but it's gonna get easier with your credentials. And you'll eventually know that everything that's going on.

[iPhone] 19:19:06

Is…. Uh….

[iPhone] 19:19:10

It's all part of the journey. And I know it doesn't seem like that now, but even me, when I was doing 5 years.

[iPhone] 19:19:21

17 years ago, well, yeah, maybe…. When I first went into the placement.

[iPhone] 19:19:27

22 years ago. It sucked.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:19:32

Power needs to get let in.

[iPhone] 19:19:38

Is Howard here?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:19:41

They need to get let in. People are waiting.

[iPhone] 19:19:43

Jason? Jason?

[iPhone] 19:19:50

Let me see if I can do it.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:02

I was muted, my apologies. I already let them in. It was Daniela and John Jack.

[iPhone] 19:20:08

And Howard.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:11

Uh…. Not yet.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:20:17

A lot… a lot of people are getting in, 16 people.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:20:21

Jason. Go get them.

[Chris Nero] 19:20:24

Yeah, they're already in.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:20:32

Alright, sorry, Chris.

[iPhone] 19:20:35

And so, uh…. Going back to….

[iPhone] 19:20:40

You know, the reason I'm bringing this up is because. And I have, you know, I speak with, you know.

[iPhone] 19:20:47

From all… with all of you, from time to time, and I….

[iPhone] 19:20:51

I'll probably speak with, you know, Ibarra a little bit more, um.

[iPhone] 19:20:54

You know, we're… I've probably known each borrower longer than, you know, the people in the group. Before there was a group.

[iPhone] 19:21:01

And, um…. And, you know.

[iPhone] 19:21:07

We've spoken a lot about these other groups that are out there, and.

[iPhone] 19:21:11

I'm not here…. To poke at them.

[iPhone] 19:21:16

But I've had a lot of calls. From other people that….

[iPhone] 19:21:23

At… in the beginning, when I offered to come into the group.

[iPhone] 19:21:28

Um, and I don't take things personal. So don't, don't, don't take this wrong, but….

[iPhone] 19:21:36

If you find value.

[iPhone] 19:21:41

Then you stay there. You stay where you're at, and you… and you… it's like a marathon.

[iPhone] 19:21:48

Uh, if you're in the marathon. And you're in… and you're in for the long… the long haul.

[iPhone] 19:21:54

It's not about finishing first. It's about finishing, right? And….

[iPhone] 19:22:01

A lot of you folks here. When I first met you.

[Stephen Foster] 19:22:08

Annie? Any….

[iPhone] 19:22:11

Steven, um…. Steven.

[Stephen Foster] 19:22:16

Come on.

[iPhone] 19:22:17

Okay. Alright, so anyhow….

[Jason Ibarra] 19:22:19

What the f? The hell?

[iPhone] 19:22:23

So, anyhow, um…. Mute, Steven. So, the thing is, is that.

[iPhone] 19:22:30

I have a lot of conversations with other people from other groups.

[iPhone] 19:22:34

And whether it's, like I said, whether it's Brandon or Andy, or….

[iPhone] 19:22:39

Or, uh, all these emails that I get in to join in their groups, whether it's.

[iPhone] 19:22:45

Paul, wanting me to, you know, join over there with the website, and this and that, or….

[iPhone] 19:22:50

Uh, or… or, you know, even…. And I don't dislike any of these people, right?

[iPhone] 19:22:57

Um, I think that everybody has, um…. Some value.

[iPhone] 19:23:04

But let's not hustle ourselves. They're here….

[iPhone] 19:23:11

Because they're here to make commercial. Money, uh, or credits, whatever you want to call it, but….

[iPhone] 19:23:19

Let's not debate semantics, just call it what it is. They want to make money.

[iPhone] 19:23:24

And it's like I told…. You know, when I… I said this to Paul, I said, you know, you guys are doing great, I mean, but….

[iPhone] 19:23:31

You know, you…. You started off with Divine, and now you're Bezos and Rockefeller.

[iPhone] 19:23:38

Uh, and it's beautiful what you're doing, but it's de facto remedy.

[iPhone] 19:23:43

So you started off building with Divine. And you're doing, you know.

[iPhone] 19:23:49

All this other stuff. And I don't care. Just venting.

[iPhone] 19:23:54

And… and then you have people…. That are out there giving information out that are….

[iPhone] 19:23:59

And it's okay, because everybody's hungry for this information. And then they go out there, and they drive, or they get hurt, and they do something.

[iPhone] 19:24:09

Uh, like the young gentleman that…. What… Jason, how… how many did he have on Instagram? How many followers would….

[iPhone] 19:24:19

4 million or something, what was it? You know what I'm talking about. Just no names mentioned.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:24:26

4 million plus.

[iPhone] 19:24:28

And this… this young man got involved with. I'm not gonna give the name, but initials BW.

[iPhone] 19:24:40

And the Homeland Security man took him down! Facing, you know, all these hundreds of years, and then, you know, then, of course, they went down to practical.

[iPhone] 19:24:50

30 years, and, you know, I had to fly down to Miami, and….

[iPhone] 19:24:54

And, you know, then I got him 10 months, and I'm not done, but….

[iPhone] 19:24:59

I had to calm down the dogs, because they were getting ready to.

[iPhone] 19:25:01

You know, throw his young life away. And, um…. People get in trouble.

[iPhone] 19:25:09

And, like, Patrick Devine says. You have nobody to blame but yourself.

[iPhone] 19:25:15

Nobody. And….

[iPhone] 19:25:23

Whether somebody tells you don't pay your utilities. And then you don't….

[iPhone] 19:25:29

Everybody here…. You know, that's been doing things with me knows that.

[iPhone] 19:25:35

Every case is different. Um, I think I had, uh, I think it was, uh, Larry, who they took his car, and….

[iPhone] 19:25:44

I'm not gonna mention the other person that's still with us that I'm working on.

[iPhone] 19:25:49

Uh, that step…. And those people….

[iPhone] 19:25:54

Are you gonna get retribution? Because it's identity theft, and they're stealing.

[iPhone] 19:26:00

And… and we know it. But for the people that get frustrated because you can't get remedy in the public, well, how would you expect to get.

[iPhone] 19:26:09

Go watch Roger Rabbit. Who framed Roger Rabbit? Because you can't… the public, they can't hear you!

[iPhone] 19:26:16

You're bringing truth in the court! The only thing you can do is set them up.

[iPhone] 19:26:24

So you can have all this information. That's not warranted.

[iPhone] 19:26:30

And then take them down. Because you gotta… you gotta… for your, uh, freedom of your Information Act, which is the military FOIA.

[iPhone] 19:26:39

How do I know? I don't know if you guys… I'm gonna put out how many foils I put out there. Over 100, so you guys can see.

[iPhone] 19:26:46

Because nobody was doing more FOIAs than me. No one. Now everybody's doing FOIAs. Foia, FOIA, FOIA! Everybody's talking about FOIA.

[iPhone] 19:26:56

Um, so… so freaking what? What are you getting out of FOIA?

[iPhone] 19:27:02

What did the last one say, Ibarra, on mine? Do you remember?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:10

Uh, military for you?

[iPhone] 19:27:11

No, no, no, no, the boiler that I put out, we cannot deny… I don't know if I see so many….

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:16

Oh, the NSA, the NSA one, that went out to the whole group.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:21

That was the one we talked about in the last call. I was trying to get, um… what's his name, Jesse, to understand.

[iPhone] 19:27:21

Yeah.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:27

Something… he said he missed it.

[iPhone] 19:27:29

Oh, right, but you remember what it said.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:27:32

Yeah, I can either confirm nor deny that you are right, basically, the lady was saying.

[iPhone] 19:27:37

Okay, and the reason for that, folks, is that. You see, they're changing hats to….

[iPhone] 19:27:43

Public to private. They can't incriminate themselves because they did something illegal.

[iPhone] 19:27:47

So, when I went back to my Castle Mortgage, which took a year and 3 days, ironically, to liquidate them.

[iPhone] 19:27:55

Because I did a 56F, and I assigned it to the Treasury, they bled them dead.

[iPhone] 19:28:00

And then I started looking at what I did, which was I was commingling a little bit of that David Wynn Miller.

[iPhone] 19:28:05

And using the military. I didn't call it a FOIA at the time.

[iPhone] 19:28:10

It was an affidavit. And that's how I liquidate.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:28:13

Wait. Oh, Chris, I just wanted to confirm.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:28:19

Because I think it's important to note, for people who missed.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:28:24

That letter, it was…. Sally Nicholson, who's the chief.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:28:30

Foia PA division of the NSA Initial Denial Authority. So, the… I was just gonna say, that… I just thought that was a big connector last week, that.

[iPhone] 19:28:35

Yes.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:28:43

Jesse, um, didn't see that, and I think it connected some dots for him, but I don't want to speak for him.

[iPhone] 19:28:49

Well, the point I'm trying to make is that. You didn't… I'm not getting, like, emotional, like, you know, fuck them, look at that. I have, like… I showed you guys over 800….

[iPhone] 19:29:01

Agencies that I did my credentials. It's… I just put it in the group.

[iPhone] 19:29:08

And a lot of the people were like. This… I said, if I gotta send it, I'm gonna send it to….

[iPhone] 19:29:14

I sent it to the Pillsbury Doughboy! I'll send it to Count Chocola.

[iPhone] 19:29:21

I don't care who it is. They're agencies. They're all affiliated with your account.

[iPhone] 19:29:29

I was really, really happy that the DOT. Confirm that, because you're… see, we're vessels.

[iPhone] 19:29:37

And when the DOT confirms it, like, when people get behind me, the cops.

[iPhone] 19:29:43

I don't know if I told you, but I got pulled over in Florence, Arizona, and the cop, like, stood there, and then he's like.

[iPhone] 19:29:50

Uh, I just got a call. It's an emergency.

[iPhone] 19:29:54

You need to be a little bit more slower. You know, whatever.

[iPhone] 19:29:58

Um, or I have a sheriff behind me coming in. And the highway, and then there… and then I moved to the other lane, he moves to the other lane, then he pulls away real fast.

[iPhone] 19:30:08

Um, you know, those are the little games, but…. I'm not concerned anymore.

[iPhone] 19:30:13

Because I don't have my car's not registered, it's in a trust.

[iPhone] 19:30:17

It's in the Department of Transportation. U.s. Department of Transportation under my Foreign Granter Trust.

[iPhone] 19:30:25

And they know that. But I want everybody.

[iPhone] 19:30:31

I don't want to be talking about me. And, oh, um, I got this, and I got that, and it has a grade, and you know, I'm the greatest, and I don't want to be that guy!

[iPhone] 19:30:43

Don't want you to be that guy, and that girl. That woman.

[iPhone] 19:30:46

But you can't do it until you guys get your…. Your credential stuff. And I mean, I don't know… I know because I farted around for a long time.

[iPhone] 19:30:58

I mean, I should show you how many 1099s I was doing, and I had the….

[iPhone] 19:31:01

The actual 1099s, you know, the real… not the ones online, I was….

[iPhone] 19:31:06

Um, I got so much stuff inside there that I'm… I'm doing now.

[iPhone] 19:31:11

Um…. My Jason, how much… Jason, how many… I had 85….

[iPhone] 19:31:18

90… 1099 OIDs, long form, right?

[Chris Nero] 19:31:24

Yes.

[iPhone] 19:31:26

And I'm going to file those in the, you know, I gotta file those in the territory, Arizona.

[iPhone] 19:31:32

Uh, to Austin, Texas, because it's all…. You know, these are all things that I want….

[iPhone] 19:31:37

I'm not… I wanna… I want all of you to be able to do.

[iPhone] 19:31:41

And for those of you that I'm helping out. Whether they're cars.

[iPhone] 19:31:47

Or court cases, or child support. There's no shortcut.

[iPhone] 19:31:52

This isn't McDonald's, or this isn't Whataburger, where you're in line, and you're like, you know, Jesus Christ, 3 minutes!

[iPhone] 19:32:00

These… these… these guys take the fast out of fast… I'm not that guy.

[iPhone] 19:32:04

Because every one of your cases is different. And every one of these are different adversaries.

[iPhone] 19:32:11

And psychologically, there's some that I've had some quick wins! But… I'm one guy.

[iPhone] 19:32:21

And I have, you know, two people. And I'm doing everything I can for you guys, but….

[iPhone] 19:32:28

Do you guys think that I'm not working fast enough, and I'm not doing enough, because I'm working 24 hours a day, and I only sleep 4 hours?

[iPhone] 19:32:34

And I'm… and I'm doing it because, you know, I want….

[iPhone] 19:32:38

$250? There you go wrong.

[iPhone] 19:32:43

I just told, you know, you borrowed today, I just want to, you know, just stop, go hit some balls.

[iPhone] 19:32:49

You know, hit some golf balls. But it was just the way I was thinking about it was good enough for me.

[iPhone] 19:32:56

It's like, you know, wanting to go to Hawaii, not really going there, but I thought about it.

[iPhone] 19:32:59

And that was good enough for me. Because I got too much to do.

[iPhone] 19:33:06

I want to do everything. I'm not complaining, okay? Because I… just what I signed up for, you know, this is what I can, in the future, when I'm 120, I'm laying on the bed, I want to be smiling because I did.

[iPhone] 19:33:16

You know, some awesome things in life. I didn't just…. You know, go out there, be a playboy, and, you know, go out there and party and do drugs.

[iPhone] 19:33:25

Alcohol, you know, fly all over the world. Now, just stayed home and….

[iPhone] 19:33:31

Did everything for everybody. And, um, but anyhow, um, so I wanted to make sure that everybody knew that there were some people out there that.

[iPhone] 19:33:41

Uh, you know, have been calling me about. A lot of these other groups.

[iPhone] 19:33:45

Again, you know, somebody… not to mention any names, but. You know, did a big enchilada or something, and….

[iPhone] 19:33:52

He got his… he got… he lost a lot of money.

[iPhone] 19:33:56

Lot of money! And he called me up this morning. And he said, I'm out 900 and something thousand dollars a day.

[iPhone] 19:34:04

And I gave my coin to this…. You know, AMAZING GUY!

[iPhone] 19:34:09

And, uh, he blocked me. And I'm not on Telegram anymore.

[iPhone] 19:34:14

And I said to him, it could have been…. It could have been so beautiful, you could have come to our group.

[iPhone] 19:34:21

And, uh, still had some money left. And so, he's gonna, you know, I told him he can call me later, because, you know, I got so much to do.

[iPhone] 19:34:30

I don't have time for all that right now. Um, because people had opportunities, and then, you know, they want to come back to me.

[iPhone] 19:34:38

You know, the wicked boy. So anyhow…. I wanted to bring that up.

[iPhone] 19:34:43

Because people…. Are flying all over the place.

[iPhone] 19:34:49

And instead of minding their own business and focusing on. Credentials.

[iPhone] 19:34:58

We can't get it right. And so….

[iPhone] 19:35:02

I…. I'm not saying this to be facetious, I'm just saying it because we're all….

[iPhone] 19:35:09

In this together, and…. We're all frustrated, so I wanted to bring Howard.

[iPhone] 19:35:15

Uh, because I spoke with Howard, please. And I wanted to see what he had.

[iPhone] 19:35:21

In the group, and then I also brought. I had a talk with Jason Nbaros that.

[iPhone] 19:35:27

How many things are on that list, Jason? 15?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:35:34

Depending on, um…. Yeah, just the core….

[Jason Ibarra] 19:35:38

You know, if you're counting on a couple different IRS forms.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:35:42

But uh… but… and then we have some optional things still that we have to discuss to solidify, but yeah, it's over 15.

[iPhone] 19:35:49

Okay, so…. Let's… Howard….

[iPhone] 19:35:55

I know you're… are you here, Howard?

[iPhone] 19:36:01

Howard. Is he muted?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:36:03

Oh, come on, Howard. Unmute.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:36:08

Jason, unmute him.

[iPhone] 19:36:08

Unmute him. Jason?

[iPhone] 19:36:16

Jason, come on, put your… put your food down. Howard.

[Chris Nero] 19:36:16

Um, which one is?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:36:16

Oh, boy.

[iPhone] 19:36:21

Put your food down. I'm muted.

[Chris Nero] 19:36:24

Is it Alyssa? There's not how… there's no Howard.

[iPhone] 19:36:27

Howard, how did you get from Howard to Alyssa? Okay, so Howard is in here?

[Chris Nero] 19:36:32

Because that's the only name that's not here. No, Howard's not here.

[iPhone] 19:36:35

Okay, great. So…. So, there's another one, you know, I don't know. I'm gonna… I'm gonna record this in good faith, but if….

[iPhone] 19:36:42

You know, if I really get irritated, like a bad rash on a hot meth and summer day.

[iPhone] 19:36:47

I might just, you know…. There might just be one less person in this group.

[iPhone] 19:36:52

But, okay, so Jason, we're gonna go into the Audible, which I already had.

[iPhone] 19:36:57

Spoken to you about. So, let's start, Jason, from number one, so that.

[iPhone] 19:37:02

We can, you know, all have. The 15 thing, so that we're all on the same page. Go ahead.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:37:08

Okay. Ucc1.

[iPhone] 19:37:12

That goes with the public UCC one. That's what the, uh….

[Jason Ibarra] 19:37:16

Correct. All right, um….

[iPhone] 19:37:18

Okay, go ahead.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:37:23

Next one is non-negotiable unlimited private bond.

[iPhone] 19:37:26

Yes? Go ahead.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:37:30

Well, are you… what are you doing? Are you gonna be asking… I mean, could you….

[iPhone] 19:37:33

No, I want you to go through… I want you to go through the list, and then we're gonna take questions.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:37:36

Oh. Okay, got it.

[iPhone] 19:37:38

See who doesn't understand. See, because if we can't get everybody to understand there's 15 things.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:37:40

Alright. Okay.

[iPhone] 19:37:44

And they all have to be sent out, registered, and to the Treasury and all that.

[iPhone] 19:37:48

Then, you know, after this one, if we can't get it right.

[iPhone] 19:37:52

Um, then I guess people are going to continue paying me to do their own work.

[iPhone] 19:37:56

That they could be doing.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:37:58

Okay. Birth certificate. Accepted for value. Certified copy, chew copy, and a copy.

[iPhone] 19:38:03

Okay, and it's just so that we're clear. The birth certificate is aka.

[iPhone] 19:38:09

The bill of exchange. Go ahead.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:38:15

Okay, the next one…. We actually had the bill of exchange.

[iPhone] 19:38:20

Yes, that's the bill of exchange for the bill. Bill of exchange.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:38:26

Or, okay.

[iPhone] 19:38:27

That's the inv… that's the invoice. Right?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:38:32

And…. I'm not looking at the packet, I'm just going by the list right now.

[iPhone] 19:38:35

Okay, but the bill…. The bill of exchange was to Timothy Geithner.

[Daniella Svoren] 19:38:36

We never had an example of the invoice.

[iPhone] 19:38:43

Is the invoice. It says BCB on there, Daniela.

[iPhone] 19:38:49

There's two letters.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:38:51

Could we go… can I just list them off, and then can we dissect each one? Because….

[iPhone] 19:38:56

I mean, Jesus Christ, we have a Zoom where I pointed everything out there.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:38:56

This is… because I'm sh….

[Jason Ibarra] 19:39:02

Uh, well, we didn't do it like this before, though.

[iPhone] 19:39:04

I know, but if you go back to the Zoom and you look at the bill of exchange.

[iPhone] 19:39:09

Aka the birth certificate. That's the bill of exchange, and the invoice is the letter to Timothy Geithner.

[iPhone] 19:39:17

Which is a new Treasury person today. So you got a chargeback, and you got….

[iPhone] 19:39:26

The letter. Go ahead.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:39:29

Alright, well, are you trying to say the non-negotiable unlimited private bond for set-off? Is that what you're talking about?

[iPhone] 19:39:35

Yes.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:39:38

Okay, so we have that at number 2.

[iPhone] 19:39:41

Go ahead. Just go through the whole list.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:39:46

Okay, I got, um… okay, so next one, um…. Sarge back, letter number one to Scott Bissette.

[iPhone] 19:39:54

What are we charging back? Does everybody know what we're charging back?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:39:55

But guide them.

[iPhone] 19:40:00

All your credits. That are being charged back.

[john jack] 19:40:02

All the credits.

[iPhone] 19:40:07

To your private estate. Most likely in Puerto Rico.

[iPhone] 19:40:11

Or Guan, but most likely in Puerto Rico, or the Virgin Islands, but….

[iPhone] 19:40:16

Again, probably Puerto Rico. Go ahead.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:40:21

The original security agreement?

[iPhone] 19:40:23

Okay?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:40:26

Okay? Non-ucc1?

[iPhone] 19:40:31

Yes.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:40:33

Credentials, Private Bounty hunter.

[iPhone] 19:40:35

That's right.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:40:39

Next one is the commercial lien affidavit of obligation.

[iPhone] 19:40:43

Yep.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:40:46

Next one. Letter number 2 for letter of instruction to Mr. Scott Bissett.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:40:50

Or Geithner on your copy?

[iPhone] 19:40:56

The letter of… just so you know what the letter of instruction is.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:40:57

Next would be….

[iPhone] 19:41:01

For you who don't know that you're a banking examiner. You're… that's… that's the underwriting.

[iPhone] 19:41:09

That's the underwriter letter, the letter of instruction. Go ahead.

[Frank] 19:41:13

Quick question, uh, if you don't mind. Um, I'm writing these down as we go.

[Frank] 19:41:17

Um, if you could just give…. Okay, too easy. Alright, thanks.

[iPhone] 19:41:18

No, we're gonna put them out. We're gonna put them out.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:41:24

Okay, number 11, which you could group this… I'm just gonna group it all into one.

[iPhone] 19:41:24

Good.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:41:29

So it's gonna be a few things, because everybody has different things.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:41:32

But it's copies of driver's license, passport, social security card, signed as beneficiary, blah blah blah, marriage certificates.

[iPhone] 19:41:40

Everything.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:41:41

Um, everything, whatever you got, your dog's birth certificate. Your cat….

[iPhone] 19:41:45

Everything. Your marriage certificate, whatever you have, passport.

[iPhone] 19:41:53

Uh, if you want to put your checking accounts, all that stuff, everything.

[iPhone] 19:41:56

Now's the time. Yes.

[Frank] 19:41:59

Does that also include court cases?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:42:05

Okay. 12, uh, IRS forms.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:42:10

So I got 3, 28.48, the 456, and the 456F.

[iPhone] 19:42:15

Yes.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:42:19

Um, 13. Silver, surety bond, notice of surety act and bond.

[iPhone] 19:42:26

Yep.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:42:29

And then I have, um, a couple optional. Which… we would have been able to nail down, but um….

[Jason Ibarra] 19:42:36

We've got W8Ben.

[iPhone] 19:42:39

Yes?

[Jason Ibarra] 19:42:41

And…. Um, the other one was….

[Jason Ibarra] 19:42:46

I think OID forms.

[Jason Ibarra] 19:42:52

Um.

[iPhone] 19:42:52

Um…. I don't think you need to do OIDs. I mean, if you're gonna… if you're gonna do anything, I would use… if you really wanted to do something, you could do the SF bond, but….

[iPhone] 19:43:03

I don't think in this case the…. One of the things that I didn't like about the creditor's Academy was that.

[iPhone] 19:43:11

Um, and I had this conversation with Paul. When I threatened to take the whole creditor academy away from him, because he didn't want to….

[iPhone] 19:43:21

Refund me my money, but then he…. Cost of vision, but anyhow.

[iPhone] 19:43:25

Um, one of the things that I discussed with him was.

[iPhone] 19:43:30

When he first started off. Building off the vine.

[iPhone] 19:43:34

He was using the shortcut of the non-UCC1. And the credentials. And then he would have you use your SFs.

[iPhone] 19:43:42

To do your discharge on… on your birth certificate. Just to find out later.

[iPhone] 19:43:51

That he was holding classes, because. The truth of the matter is, is that yes, you can operate with your non-UCC.

[iPhone] 19:44:01

However, if you're gonna do banking, you gotta have your public SBC with your credits.

[iPhone] 19:44:07

Because your non-UCC is your debit card. It just shows you own in the private, because.

[iPhone] 19:44:14

And the public, the United States. Corporation has all the assets on their own UCC.

[iPhone] 19:44:19

Which has all the man and women's vessels on there. And I… and I… I said to him, you know.

[iPhone] 19:44:28

You really told people something backwards. Uh, it's confusing.

[iPhone] 19:44:34

So, this is why we're doing the whole package together. Correctly. And in the past, what would happen is that.

[iPhone] 19:44:43

There would be people that would just do the…. As the… it's the AKA, the SPC package.

[iPhone] 19:44:51

Which is really the UCC Technical Support Package. Which is where you put your straw guy on there, and you know, the $100 billion or whatever.

[iPhone] 19:44:59

Okay, so now you got $100 billion. Yay! What are you gonna do?

[iPhone] 19:45:05

Are you gonna get it? You gotta stare at it every day?

[iPhone] 19:45:10

That's why you need your non-UCC. So you can go in.

[iPhone] 19:45:16

And you can go into a…. A broker bank.

[iPhone] 19:45:21

And use your trust. To purchase properties.

[iPhone] 19:45:27

With your 1099-A. And your bill of exchange.

[iPhone] 19:45:34

And your letter of instruction. So you can buy a car.

[iPhone] 19:45:41

But you're gonna have a broker for that. And you need to be able to go inside there and know what you're doing, and I'm gonna start filming that.

[iPhone] 19:45:50

I'm gonna go… I wanted to go into a car. And I'm doing a property now.

[iPhone] 19:45:56

And…. We're gonna do it.

[iPhone] 19:46:01

So you can see. Because, you know, with everybody here, everybody wants to see, because.

[iPhone] 19:46:06

Who the hell's gonna believe anybody without doing it? Because everybody wants to see it.

[iPhone] 19:46:14

Because nobody has faith. That it can be done, until they see it.

[iPhone] 19:46:20

Nobody believes that a case could be extinguished until they see it.

[iPhone] 19:46:24

What 1099s can go into a court case until they see it.

[iPhone] 19:46:27

Nobody will believe that anything can be done until they believe it. I get it.

[iPhone] 19:46:31

I get it. I'm not…. I'm not mad about that.

[iPhone] 19:46:36

But you can't do it. Until….

[iPhone] 19:46:40

You get the… you can capture the pro…. Technically, we should all be able to go inside there, write our signature, and get the hell out and own it.

[iPhone] 19:46:50

The problem with that is that you have piracy of the high seas.

[iPhone] 19:46:54

That's why when you turn on your TV after you watch a movie or a film, it says piracy.

[iPhone] 19:47:00

500,000. Right? You ever see those when you're watching it?

[iPhone] 19:47:06

Piracy. Uh, there's a fine for if you try to, you know, pirate or traffic.

[iPhone] 19:47:12

The movie or whatever. So, for people to say that there's not piracy anymore, then….

[iPhone] 19:47:20

You don't know what the hell's going on. You see, because what's going on is that you can't see that there's.

[iPhone] 19:47:27

There's a commercial river. And that commercial river is black matter.

[iPhone] 19:47:33

And that black matter that has all the molecules and atoms of your body with the frequency is just floating on it.

[iPhone] 19:47:42

You're on maritime. And inside of your vessel.

[iPhone] 19:47:47

Is your fish, the little pizza. That's floating inside of your….

[iPhone] 19:47:53

Uh, the Red River. I mean, the Red…. Um.

[iPhone] 19:47:59

Where did he liquidate the army? What was that called? The Red Sea.

[iPhone] 19:48:02

So, inside of the soul is floating inside of the Red Sea.

[iPhone] 19:48:09

And we're the vessel out here. But we think that this is solid, but it's not solid. Like, I'm in my car, doesn't mean I'm in the car.

[iPhone] 19:48:17

And that I'm the car. And just because I'm inside of this.

[iPhone] 19:48:23

This… this temple and this vessel. And this BR, the brain, which is the bread, the manna.

[iPhone] 19:48:30

And the crown that I wear, the heavy is the crown on top of my head.

[iPhone] 19:48:36

But that's not the end. On top of it. Is the soul, what they call the aura.

[iPhone] 19:48:43

And they know that. But because the ether is the Ethernet.

[iPhone] 19:48:51

Which is really the internet. That's been around now, forever, because there's only now.

[iPhone] 19:48:58

Then now… now, now, and future now, common denominator now. They want you to believe all that crap that happened, because they could… they're controlling what you think you know.

[iPhone] 19:49:13

So, when you're going inside there and you're trying all these instruments.

[iPhone] 19:49:16

They have all these algorithms to stop you. So you have to… you have to be prepared.

[iPhone] 19:49:25

To fight them! Because they're gonna… they… what they believe is true.

[iPhone] 19:49:33

Until proven otherwise. They have that right to believe that. They're not stealing from you.

[iPhone] 19:49:41

They're not really putting you in prison. And really killing you. They're only killing you civilly!

[iPhone] 19:49:48

Come on, God, we're not really killing them! Look, we're taking care of them, we're feeding them, we're clothing them.

[iPhone] 19:49:54

If they're so safe in that warehouse. All the while taking and usurping your private estate.

[iPhone] 19:50:01

But that's how they justify it, whoever they are. And that's love for another story.

[iPhone] 19:50:10

So that's why you have… you have your papers. Do you have your papers?

[iPhone] 19:50:14

Are they in order? It's the same shit!

[iPhone] 19:50:20

And until you all can grasp that while you're all…. So engulfed in all the controversy, because you want to beat them in the public.

[iPhone] 19:50:30

And you want to have that affirmation. Yeah, we beat them! No, you're gonna lose every single time! I got 25 properties that went into foreclosure. I'm not all emotional, you know, screw them!

[iPhone] 19:50:41

No! I can't take my property.

[iPhone] 19:50:46

I'm gonna record something. That order means nothing, that's my order.

[iPhone] 19:50:51

You're administrative! Refusal for cause, I'll go down to the county recorder I recorded and do a UCC11. You don't have a lien on any of my properties, I'm the guy that holds it, so….

[iPhone] 19:51:01

What do they have? They have the conundrum now. They can't take my properties.

[iPhone] 19:51:05

I got tenants inside there, I'm still collecting rents. Up today, I collected some rents.

[iPhone] 19:51:12

I'm not emotional. I'm not like, you know, damn, they took my property!

[iPhone] 19:51:18

But I do have the endgame now, because…. The military FOIA.

[iPhone] 19:51:23

Is the key. They're not going to give it to you. You're gonna set them up.

[iPhone] 19:51:29

And then you're gonna go…. To Washington, D.C.

[iPhone] 19:51:34

And you're gonna pull a FOIA. For your information, Act.

[iPhone] 19:51:38

Because…. Listen, look at it like this.

[iPhone] 19:51:44

Would we all agree that everything out here is bankrupt? Can we agree with that?

[iPhone] 19:51:50

Do you all…. Raise your… raise your hand if you believe that.

[john jack] 19:51:54

Yes, I agree.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 19:51:56

I agree, yes.

[Daniella Svoren] 19:51:56

Yes.

[iPhone] 19:51:58

So then, if they're gonna ask you for money.

[iPhone] 19:52:07

99.9999999999999%? They have your estate behind them.

[iPhone] 19:52:16

Under… under HGR192, under June 5th of 1933, where they created.

[iPhone] 19:52:22

An estate that's in Puerto Rico. I just finished having….

[iPhone] 19:52:27

Last week, I'm not gonna mention who she is, but I started emailing….

[iPhone] 19:52:33

Texting stuff and military FOIA and all that, because. You know, Patrick Devine was big on the FOIAs.

[iPhone] 19:52:39

But just for argument's sake, I've been doing the FOIAs. I got over 100 FOIAs, and what did I get out of it?

[iPhone] 19:52:46

Out of one, I had to figure out how the hell did I liquidate Castle Morgan?

[iPhone] 19:52:52

And it took 12 months, because I took the claim, and then I….

[iPhone] 19:52:55

I transferred it to the Treasury, and then they…. 56 after them, and they were the receivers, so they….

[iPhone] 19:53:01

The Treasury suck the living day out of them. And then I'm the one on the UCC1.

[iPhone] 19:53:09

And guess what, guys? After I did that, then Wilmington came after me.

[iPhone] 19:53:15

Can you believe that shit? And I discharged it, and the judge said, yes, you discharged it!

[iPhone] 19:53:22

But they got a security, and I'm like, where did they get the security from?

[iPhone] 19:53:26

Right? I got this on transcript, by the way. So I'm going into the bankruptcy court.

[iPhone] 19:53:34

With the FOIA, somebody's gonna go to prison. You see, because for those of you who are asking, well, what's going to compel them?

[iPhone] 19:53:42

The United States District of Columbia Bankruptcy Trustee. Because they don't want to touch it.

[iPhone] 19:53:49

They're gonna go in, and they're gonna find out who. Has your estate, and you know.

[iPhone] 19:53:55

When I looked at my paperwork, it was just Chris Nero.

[iPhone] 19:54:00

And then, at the bottom, it said. Estate.

[iPhone] 19:54:05

Right? So, if they're asking for money.

[iPhone] 19:54:10

And there's no more money! Where they get in the money!

[iPhone] 19:54:17

Where are they getting that voucher? You guys… you guys are thinking?

[iPhone] 19:54:22

From your bankruptcy estate. Because it's all prepaid.

[iPhone] 19:54:28

Look at what I sent you on the rules and the laws of the utilities.

[iPhone] 19:54:34

Those laws are telling you that they're prepaid.

[iPhone] 19:54:41

And we gotta take back. All those… the utilities, I told you what I read, it said, this is for the community.

[iPhone] 19:54:49

The communism. For the totality of the community.

[iPhone] 19:54:55

And to share…. The energy.

[iPhone] 19:55:00

That's the shareholders. Right?

[iPhone] 19:55:04

So, we're shareholders in the…. Community, uh, and it's… guess what it's for?

[iPhone] 19:55:11

For the public trust. Oh, so you mean my bankruptcy state that you guys are holding?

[iPhone] 19:55:18

See? And when you have your credentials, and I'm not… I don't even think at some point that you… I think you can go around it.

[iPhone] 19:55:29

If you hit the nail on the head, that's why I put that FOI out there.

[iPhone] 19:55:33

For those of you who have eyes to see how powerful that was.

[iPhone] 19:55:38

So that you can use it. Because they have a fiduciary obligation, because we know that in the public, everything has been turned into a trust.

[iPhone] 19:55:48

And if your utilities are asking you for money, and your credit cards are asking you for money.

[iPhone] 19:55:53

And your mortgage is asking you for money. And you know that there's… you know that there's no money.

[iPhone] 19:56:02

And they're giving you vouchers? Where did that come from?

[iPhone] 19:56:08

Could it be…. Your private….

[iPhone] 19:56:13

You know, your bankrupt estate? Like me, when I had my bankruptcy to liquidate my.

[iPhone] 19:56:19

I did it in Washington, D.C. Right?

[iPhone] 19:56:25

And I did one in the public. But now I got them.

[iPhone] 19:56:32

I got them, because on my bankruptcy, it shows a state.

[iPhone] 19:56:37

I never went under an estate. And that….

[iPhone] 19:56:43

Is what I have a right to see. And you do, too. You have a right to see your mortgage, you have a right to go to your title company where you closed on your property, because you own that….

[iPhone] 19:56:55

Vote first. They can't securitize your note. You have a right to go into your… I wish you guys would have listened to me last time.

[iPhone] 19:57:01

Go to your damn mortgage, your title company where you closed, they gave you a title commitment.

[iPhone] 19:57:08

That said you were free and clear! So, if you're free and clear.

[iPhone] 19:57:14

And then they put a lien afterwards. That means you had to own it first.

[iPhone] 19:57:20

For there to be a lien put thereafter. And how are they the trustee?

[iPhone] 19:57:26

That means there's a trust, and they're a disinterested third party.

[iPhone] 19:57:29

There's a thing called errors and omissions! So you can go put in a claim on your property.

[iPhone] 19:57:37

At the title company! Very good, you have insurance!

[iPhone] 19:57:43

And everything has insurance, because it's a big damn casino! That's why they have to get performance bond, bid bonds, and payment bonds in the court. That's insurance!

[iPhone] 19:57:59

Like at the casino, when you're playing blackjack. Insurance. Because those title companies don't want you to figure out that you don't own that property!

[iPhone] 19:58:09

Because there's a trust. You already owned it! So, if you owned it when you signed that piece of paper called the note, and then they took it, and they bifurcated it, and took the security agreement, and sold it again and again and again.

[iPhone] 19:58:24

How the hell does that work? And if you're in a trust.

[iPhone] 19:58:29

That means that you, if you studied trust. Can turn the trust around.

[iPhone] 19:58:34

You can make them the trustee, you're the grantor, and tell them what to do!

[iPhone] 19:58:39

But you've got to do the FOIA. But not a regular FOIA!

[iPhone] 19:58:43

Trust me, 100 FOIAs plus. It's the military FOIA. Why?

[iPhone] 19:58:49

Because on June 5th of 1933. When Roosevelt declared a national emergency under the Emergency Wars Act, we are now under martial law.

[iPhone] 19:59:00

Like Patrick Devine said. We're all in the military!

[iPhone] 19:59:04

Not us, but our uppercase. And we're in 10 miles squared in.

[iPhone] 19:59:12

And they transferred all of us to Puerto Rico. That's why if you watch The Wizard of Oz 2.

[iPhone] 19:59:18

The pumpkin is…. Where they took him and put him in a little room.

[iPhone] 19:59:23

And that's your foreign citizen. That's your foreign trust.

[iPhone] 19:59:28

And that's how they took it. That's why he called your mom.

[iPhone] 19:59:34

Because your mother is the grantor. Of all the birth certificates.

[iPhone] 19:59:42

And, you know, for those of those who know what I'm talking about, it's….

[iPhone] 19:59:49

You have to have a grantor. Of where the birth certificate came from.

[iPhone] 19:59:54

So you gotta look at the codes. That's why I really love Divine so much, because, you know, he was… you know, he was… he was a little out… well, he was out there.

[iPhone] 20:00:02

But he was doing everything he could. Just figure out everything.

[iPhone] 20:00:08

And I do have a lot of admiration for that, and I do listen to a lot of his stuff.

[iPhone] 20:00:15

But I can't… I can't just settle for his stuff. I like Andy's stuff, too.

[iPhone] 20:00:22

You know, he's in Canada, and he's like, deposition of a security!

[iPhone] 20:00:26

Yeah, but the deposition of the securities, your birth certificate, Jesus Christ, your social's connected to that.

[iPhone] 20:00:33

And if you have identity theft, like so many you've received from the IRS, you have identity theft?

[iPhone] 20:00:41

That's a beautiful thing, because that means that somebody took your identity.

[Stephen Foster] 20:00:41

Holley, Mr. Holly.

[iPhone] 20:00:45

Somebody took your social security number, and they shared it with somebody else, and somebody else, and so… why are they sharing your….

[iPhone] 20:00:53

Private information, and using it against you! How does that happen?

[iPhone] 20:01:00

So guess what you want? You want a military FOIA. Right?

[Stephen Foster] 20:01:00

Mr. Kelly.

[Stephen Foster] 20:01:06

Graham, no.

[iPhone] 20:01:10

What is that noise? Somebody mute Steven. All right, so look.

[Stephen Foster] 20:01:14

Cortez Moscow. Aye.

[iPhone] 20:01:20

Jason? Okay, look.

[iPhone] 20:01:26

I hope that you are all grasping what I'm saying. Because the military FOIA is a command.

[iPhone] 20:01:35

And I put all the laws out there. I got those from the Military Handbook.

[Stephen Foster] 20:01:41

Fisher, Mrs. Fisher.

[iPhone] 20:01:43

Jason? Mute, Steven.

[Chris Nero] 20:01:46

Yeah.

[iPhone] 20:01:53

Okay. So, for those of you that are listening to me with mortgages.

[iPhone] 20:01:59

As I said last time, nobody caught it. You can go to the title company where you closed.

[iPhone] 20:02:08

And do an errors and omissions claim on that insurance. Your title commitment.

[iPhone] 20:02:15

Has a low number. And they insured you for that.

[iPhone] 20:02:21

And you can do a military FOIA. Boy, you do a military FOIA over there.

[iPhone] 20:02:25

You're gonna get…. Your property, because what they should have done under UCC 9607-9608.

[iPhone] 20:02:33

And 9609 is they should have done a deed. Of reconveyance, but they didn't do it.

[iPhone] 20:02:39

Instead, they preyed on your ignorance. Brought in somebody who they knew.

[iPhone] 20:02:44

Took your, your, your, uh, credit. Exchange it at the federal window.

[iPhone] 20:02:52

Loaned you your own money from their account. Created a trust, didn't even have the tenacity to make into a trustee, they just made you into a tenant.

[iPhone] 20:03:03

And then the title company became the trustee. They became the beneficiary of that trust.

[iPhone] 20:03:11

And you became the tenant. And they… they took everything away from me.

[iPhone] 20:03:17

And you guys are all whining. About….

[iPhone] 20:03:23

You know, that they took your note. And I just watched something on Divine.

[iPhone] 20:03:28

You have nobody… he's saying nobody… you have nobody to blame but yourself, because all you wanted to do was get that credit, get that credit card, all you wanted to do, including me.

[iPhone] 20:03:39

Many, many times. All you wanted to do was just get that house, gimme it! Give me it!

[iPhone] 20:03:44

I'll sign my life away! You didn't even read it. And you know what? You have 72 hours to go over that contract. You didn't do it, you signed it right then, right there.

[iPhone] 20:03:52

You sign page after page. On credit cards, you just scrolled and scrolled and scrolled and scrolled, because you didn't want to read it.

[iPhone] 20:03:59

And you just push the button, and now you have what you want.

[iPhone] 20:04:06

So, look…. Um… I'm just being very, very, uh, direct.

[iPhone] 20:04:17

Uh, I'm gonna… I'm gonna tell you that you have all those people, all you people out there.

[iPhone] 20:04:23

Have insurance policies for everything. And you have a right to ask.

[iPhone] 20:04:28

For your credit cards. If you do the right FOIA.

[iPhone] 20:04:33

Uh, if you do it for your mortgages. Uh, everything.

[iPhone] 20:04:38

And what you do is you're… what we're doing in court right now is we're setting them up for the fall.

[iPhone] 20:04:44

We're setting them up for the fall. Uh, now, do we really want to prosecute?

[iPhone] 20:04:50

That's a big question right there. How about we use this as leverage?

[iPhone] 20:04:55

To get settlement and closure. We give them the little plea agreement.

[iPhone] 20:05:01

And when the Treasury or the trustee for.

[iPhone] 20:05:10

Who is they? Your lender, your credit card? You gotta give some… you gotta have some leverage. Okay.

[iPhone] 20:05:18

They get the FOIA, they know you know there's a private estate. They know they got caught.

[iPhone] 20:05:24

They know that they created an out-of-your-bankruptcy estate. Now you got them.

[iPhone] 20:05:30

They're just gonna wanna do whatever they have to do to make this go away.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:05:35

Hey, Chris? You brought up, uh… I mean, I know we kind of went into the weeds a little bit into the, uh, whole bankruptcy side.

[iPhone] 20:05:37

Boyd.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:05:43

So I just wanted to quickly clarify a couple things, because….

[Jason Ibarra] 20:05:47

When you're looking at all the U.S. Codes for, um. You know.

[iPhone] 20:05:52

Codes don't apply to us. They only apply to your military guy, but we're… we're the… we're the government.

[iPhone] 20:05:58

We are the government. I'm the private attorney general. You're the private disc, whatever, you're the governor, all that stuff.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:06:02

Okay, that… well, that's leading into my question, or my point, because….

[Jason Ibarra] 20:06:07

When you go to the FOIA, or to the…. To DC, and you're looking at all the foyer contacts.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:06:15

It breaks… it breaks the country down into 21 regions. But… so it's like… but those folks that are doing Chapter 13 and Chapter 7, they're doing public bankruptcies when people.

[iPhone] 20:06:18

Yep.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:06:26

File bankruptcy and things like that. When does it turn private, where judges.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:06:30

You tie into military foyer, who… they're not handling those, there's no way.

[iPhone] 20:06:35

Uh, they are, because, uh, they're under military law.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:06:41

The… you mean the DC folks? Because…. The people….

[iPhone] 20:06:43

Everybody, everyone knows that's in the government. Everyone.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:06:48

Yeah, but what about the… I'm talking about these private Chapter 13 and Chapter 7 bankruptcy companies.

[iPhone] 20:06:53

They know. They know. Everything.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:06:55

But which part do they know? Because I'm telling you, I… I know these… some of these people.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:07:01

They're doing public bankruptcies, so are you sure they're tied to the private side?

[iPhone] 20:07:04

They know! They know.

[iPhone] 20:07:09

They know that there is a private estate, they tell you right on the damn thing.

[iPhone] 20:07:15

What do you think all this money is going? It's going back into your estate when they….

[iPhone] 20:07:20

Extinguish the debt, and then they're waiting 7 years. And that's gonna be their retirement fund.

[iPhone] 20:07:28

They get a percentage out of there. What do you think all these polling….

[iPhone] 20:07:33

Uh, real estate investment trusts are out there. That's where they hide it.

[iPhone] 20:07:40

They'll hide it in Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, Municipal Bonds, Junk Bonds.

[iPhone] 20:07:44

All these are estates. Do you not remember, Jason, where you… you pulled up the AT&T 11K, and what did you pull up?

[Jason Ibarra] 20:07:56

Puerto Rico Trust?

[iPhone] 20:07:58

That's right. And who do you think Puerto Rico Trust is? The people.

[iPhone] 20:08:03

You go to Chase. Go to Chase anybody. Go to SSC.gov.

[iPhone] 20:08:07

And pull up Chase at the SEC. Pull an 8K, pull a 10K. You're gonna see a letter of credit in there, blank.

[iPhone] 20:08:16

No signatures, nobody. That's the people's credit.

[iPhone] 20:08:19

I'm gonna take that one of these days. I said that last time.

[iPhone] 20:08:24

Just for the hell of it. We are the national treasures!

[iPhone] 20:08:33

We are the governor! We are the private attorney general. We are the government.

[iPhone] 20:08:43

We're all, like, what does Divine say? Everybody's screaming, why doesn't the government do this? Why doesn't that? Where the damn government? You have nobody to blame but yourself! What do you expect them to do? They can't do anything. They're actors!

[iPhone] 20:08:56

The only thing you can do is become the general, the private.

[iPhone] 20:09:01

General, Attorney General. What do you… what do you think a general is? What do you think they have a general? Because we're under military law!

[iPhone] 20:09:09

And you're gonna have to give the command! Or they're gonna get court-martialed.

[iPhone] 20:09:14

And why do you think you have Homeland Security? They belong to us. Home. We're the home!

[iPhone] 20:09:21

This is the home, the temple, the Constitution on our shoulders.

[iPhone] 20:09:26

The vessel! And what is the land? What is the land? Us.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:09:29

So.

[iPhone] 20:09:32

Every mineral, every dust, everything we have, we're the land, we're homeland!

[iPhone] 20:09:38

We've always been home.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:09:38

So that woman…. So then that woman at the NSA who… she was labeled.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:09:45

Actually, she probably is not that important, because she was, like, a low… like, the first line it said.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:09:51

A defense, if you go onto the FOIA, the Justice websites, there's all these FOIA counselors and these privacy councils, all these Office of General Counsels.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:10:00

All the executive offices for U.S. Trustees. I would bet, then, that that woman….

[iPhone] 20:10:03

Yep. You're gonna go… you're gonna go… you're gonna go to the main trustee.

[iPhone] 20:10:09

It's a woman. And you're gonna… there's a woman at the bankruptcy office.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:10:11

It's a woman.

[iPhone] 20:10:16

And they may have changed it from last year. Oh, by the way, uh, uh, Jason, you know, uh, the Warden Ibarra got removed, by the way. I just thought I'd tell you, we'll talk about that later.

[iPhone] 20:10:27

Uh, but anyhow, um…. If you do things….

[Jason Ibarra] 20:10:27

Oh, boy.

[iPhone] 20:10:33

With conviction and knowledge. And you stop acting like….

[iPhone] 20:10:40

Adapter. Bake it till you make it.

[iPhone] 20:10:44

If you can't believe who you are, then you're not who you are.

[iPhone] 20:10:51

I've been through so much hell in my life that I just don't give a damn.

[iPhone] 20:10:56

I go inside there, I'm ready to go down. You better kill me.

[iPhone] 20:11:00

But I got one thing in mind, and that's the law.

[iPhone] 20:11:04

And the Word is… the Word comes from our Creator, and our Creator is I am, and I AM is a frequency of Am, and that's the way it goes.

[iPhone] 20:11:13

And if you go inside there, and you know who you are, and you're going in there with the faith of the.

[iPhone] 20:11:19

The sword, which is the word spelled backwards. And you have the shield, and your shield is with you, and you're wearing it.

[iPhone] 20:11:27

And you know the words. Then you have the sword, and you have the shield.

[iPhone] 20:11:34

And you have the faith and the conviction of. The Creator Himself.

[iPhone] 20:11:41

Herself, himself, whatever.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:11:46

Well, the… because even in, like, if you look at Region 21.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:11:51

Um, that's tied right to the Virgin Islands.

[iPhone] 20:11:54

That's right, and Guam. And you have territories.

[iPhone] 20:11:59

So.

[chris] 20:12:00

So Sabrina won't end. Sabrina trying to get in.

[iPhone] 20:12:05

Uh…. Jason?

[iPhone] 20:12:12

Jason? Let me see if I can get that….

[Chris Nero] 20:12:16

Yes.

[iPhone] 20:12:19

Let… uh, who's trying to get in? Sabrina?

[Chris Nero] 20:12:26

Shartina….

[iPhone] 20:12:27

Oh, Shartina. Okay, let her in.

[Chris Nero] 20:12:32

I did.

[iPhone] 20:12:33

Okay. All right, so when… when I… when I tell you folks.

[Shartina Curry] 20:12:34

Thank you.

[iPhone] 20:12:40

Uh, and I'm doing something with Chartina, but I'm doing something very methodical, Chartina, because listen.

[iPhone] 20:12:47

Um, on another client that I have. I just got medical records.

[iPhone] 20:12:54

From somebody who's in prison. And, uh.

[iPhone] 20:13:01

That's big. Because if you've got medical records, that means somebody's alive in prison.

[iPhone] 20:13:07

That means that whoever they indicted was the backward… the offshore name, the state.

[iPhone] 20:13:14

That they have a trust on with trust links and trust core.

[iPhone] 20:13:18

And promissory trust. Who did they arrest?

[iPhone] 20:13:24

And that was very, very, you know, I was… I'm very grateful to have met this woman who.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:13:26

Um, Chris, bringing you back to the secured party stuff. I'll just… I just wanted to make a couple notes, uh, for the group.

[iPhone] 20:13:30

Has access to all that. And I just received the medical record.

[iPhone] 20:13:35

And I'm about to set…. A formal letter to the governor, because I'm about to bring in.

[iPhone] 20:13:43

Cci, Commercial Confidential Information. Because we have a vessel in distress.

[iPhone] 20:13:50

That's double jeopardy. Put it to your rest.

[iPhone] 20:13:58

And so, for those of you who. Know that I'm, you know.

[iPhone] 20:14:04

I know everybody's impatient. Everybody wants me. If there's a reason why I'm taking a little bit, you know, more time on something.

[iPhone] 20:14:14

I don't mind people reminding me. Like, I told, you know, Jason Ibarra.

[iPhone] 20:14:19

I forget. Daniela many times.

[iPhone] 20:14:23

Send it to me again! Because you guys, I'm not… I'm not freaking, you know, perfect.

[iPhone] 20:14:32

I never said I was perfect. I'm a guy, a man that just came in here doing some shit.

[iPhone] 20:14:37

Minding my own business! And now here I am.

[iPhone] 20:14:41

And here we are. So you have to understand, I'm not….

[iPhone] 20:14:47

You know, I wish I was perfect, but I'm not. Nobody's perfect.

[iPhone] 20:14:50

And so, I don't mind a little nudge every once in a while. Hey, you know, this, or, you know, you know, Gary, you know, he'll tell me, hey, what's going on, we're just….

[iPhone] 20:14:59

Or whoever. Because I'm… I'm like, you know, fighting multiple… I mean, worse than Bruce Lee movies, you know?

[iPhone] 20:15:09

I got this, I got the animals, and I'm not complaining, I don't really, you know….

[iPhone] 20:15:13

Good. It makes me stronger, you know, it really does.

[iPhone] 20:15:21

Yeah, go ahead.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:15:25

In case they're looking at, um, Jason's packet that was sent out after the last, uh.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:15:30

The second last call. Um, just wanted to point out, there is the… the first page had some kind of utility letter.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:15:36

We determined, concluded that, um, that was probably a mistake. So just to put that on the record in the transcripts and this call.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:15:45

Um, that letter has nothing to do with the secured party, um, package here.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:15:49

And then, um, there was a bunch of UCC3s. That had to be, um, you know, submitted for you. And….

[iPhone] 20:15:57

Okay, but the UCC3s, just to be clear, so you guys know.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:16:01

No, no, just… yeah, I'm just putting the note out there. Yeah, go ahead. I just want….

[iPhone] 20:16:03

Right, but the UCC3s. Had to do with… you have to….

[iPhone] 20:16:11

Watch your UCCs, because every 5 years. You have to update them.

[iPhone] 20:16:16

So that's why that was there. I had to update mine.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:16:18

Right. And I'll… I'll make a note of that, so everybody knows.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:16:24

Uh, that there's some things in there that, you know, aren't necessary. Um, so I just wanted to put that note.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:16:29

So that other things…. There's a few other things, um, because then, again, people look at that package, there's a couple questions, um….

[iPhone] 20:16:30

And then, you know….

[Jason Ibarra] 20:16:38

So we already did the 1099 OID, SF bonds, SF forms, whatever. Um, if somebody had enough past still or dual authentication of a birth certificate, throwing that in there, it's not a big deal, that's just extra, right?

[iPhone] 20:16:51

A big deal.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:16:52

Okay? Um, and then there was, uh, I don't think, um….

[Jason Ibarra] 20:16:56

We went over this in the group when we were trying to.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:16:59

Dissect it all. There was a notarial…. Certificate of dishonor and a notice of response and estoppel.

[iPhone] 20:17:04

Yeah. Yeah, that was me.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:17:08

Okay, so that's extra, right? That's, like, advanced stuff you can do down the road?

[iPhone] 20:17:13

You could do it down the road. I did that because I was in prison.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:17:18

So… so what I'm breaking….

[iPhone] 20:17:19

You pull up Timothy Geithner, if you pull up Timothy Geithner, you know, they always resign, you know.

[iPhone] 20:17:25

Yeah, there's something to that, but…. I… I think that at some point, you know, you look at coincidences, but whatever.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:17:35

Um, the W8 Bend…. Uh, do you want people using the IRS form now, so it's….

[Jason Ibarra] 20:17:42

So everything's…. Kind of formalized.

[iPhone] 20:17:44

Yeah, why not? Sure. You can… you can….

[Jason Ibarra] 20:17:47

Okay, so I'll pull that down.

[iPhone] 20:17:49

You can do a W8 bend and an affidavit on the side.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:17:52

Okay. I'll separate that in the packet, and then, um….

[iPhone] 20:17:53

That's, you know, it's fine. You can, you know….

[Jason Ibarra] 20:17:58

I'll separate that in the packet so people know, like, yours is the original, and then there's an extra.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:18:03

Based on, you know, what you want to do. It's your choice, at least then people will know.

[iPhone] 20:18:07

I would say you could do an affidavit, it's not… that's probably what I would do.

[iPhone] 20:18:12

Do an affidavit. With your W8 band.

[iPhone] 20:18:18

And I can put one together, you know, if you want, but it's not….

[iPhone] 20:18:21

All you gotta say is, I'm born, you know, whatever, to the.

[iPhone] 20:18:25

United States, and here's where my W8 Ben, and he's…. Get it notarized, and you sign it, and it's a living, breathing person doing it, that's all.

[iPhone] 20:18:33

The whole point of that.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:18:35

Okay. Uh…. So that's the whole list. We went through the whole list.

[iPhone] 20:18:41

Okay? No. Yes, that's it.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:18:41

At this point. Was there anything we missed, you think? Is Howard on the call yet?

[iPhone] 20:18:48

No, but, you know, this is recorded, and for those who.

[iPhone] 20:18:52

You know, if he wants to come back, can…. Um, maybe you couldn't make it, or give them the benefit of the doubt, but, you know, I've….

[iPhone] 20:18:59

If I don't hear anything, then, you know, I'll make my decision down the road.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:19:02

The only thing I'll clarify also for the group. That I think is going to be beneficial for people is… and maybe I'm wrong.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:19:11

You know, I'll take… I'll listen to anybody that wants to….

[Jason Ibarra] 20:19:15

You know, suggest some ideas, but I'll just bring up one, for example.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:19:18

Um, if you take one of the…. Geithner letters?

[Jason Ibarra] 20:19:23

Um, there's a lot of, like. Different account numbers. I'm gonna make, like, an index.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:19:28

Of all those account numbers and what they could mean. Um, because a lot of people might have questions like what the format is, what is this number? I feel like I've seen a lot of those questions in the group.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:19:39

Um, and I think that would limit the number of questions that came to, like, how the hell… what the hell is….

[Jason Ibarra] 20:19:45

You know, 585- it's like a… literally, like, 30 numbers long. It's a private account number.

[iPhone] 20:19:51

It's just a social… just a social security number.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:19:51

Stuff like that. Well, then there's a dash, and then there's 20 numbers after that.

[iPhone] 20:20:00

Oh, that's…. Um, that could be, uh….

[Jason Ibarra] 20:20:00

In the Timothy Geithner letter. So I can… I can… I'll get… those are what I'm calling the finer details.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:20:09

Things like different addresses and different things. Um, invoices, uh, exception number… exemption numbers, things like that.

[iPhone] 20:20:17

Okay.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:20:18

I'll clarify, and I'll make a citation list. So that people can check, okay, like.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:20:25

Document 1 is the UCC1, and then at the end, there'll be a citation list, and I'll just keep building that for people.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:20:31

So that… that should limit the number of questions and issues, and then people can decide what they want to do.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:20:38

Um, with each… with each thing.

[iPhone] 20:20:41

Jason Litt, Brad back in. Chartina, go ahead.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:20:45

Red?

[Shartina Curry] 20:20:48

I just had a quick question about the, um, UCCs. So you say they expire every 5 years. Do you have to update just the UCC1 that the UCC3s are under, or all of them?

[Chris Nero] 20:20:50

I don't see….

[Shartina Curry] 20:21:03

Individually.

[iPhone] 20:21:03

A UCC3. Like, let's just say for your bank, your, uh, your uppercase guy, a woman.

[iPhone] 20:21:11

That needs to be… you need to watch that every 5 years, and then you're not going to do away with the U6C1, you're just gonna do a UCC3 amendment.

[iPhone] 20:21:19

Keep it alive.

[Shartina Curry] 20:21:20

Okay, so you're doing the UCC3. As the amendment to extend the UCC1.

[iPhone] 20:21:26

Yep. All right, Daniela?

[Shartina Curry] 20:21:27

Okay, thank you.

[Daniella Svoren] 20:21:33

Hey, I wanted to clarify, or, um…. Actually asked Jason if we clarified that the….

[Daniella Svoren] 20:21:40

Ucc, which is the public UCC1, um, the instructions that were in the original email.

[Daniella Svoren] 20:21:48

Are incorrect. Um, and that we need to follow them the way that Chris has in.

[Daniella Svoren] 20:21:56

Um, the presentation that he did.

[iPhone] 20:21:59

Yes.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:22:03

Yeah, yeah, hopefully, Danielle, nobody's gonna ever look at that, um….

[Jason Ibarra] 20:22:08

The wrong instruction thing again, once this main packet comes out.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:22:12

Because Chris is gonna give his stamp of approval on it, and.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:22:16

You know, right? So, that's why I'm just gonna keep coming back to each one of you.

[iPhone] 20:22:20

Yeah, we're not gonna be… we're not here to… yeah, we're not here to look back.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:22:20

Like, hey, any questions you have? Yep.

[iPhone] 20:22:24

Whatever, uh, we've just discussed, that's it. Uh, that's why people are gone.

[iPhone] 20:22:30

We're still filtering through. Unfortunately.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:22:32

And…. And Chris, it would help if everybody that's on the call right now.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:22:39

If you do have any questions about what this number might be, what that number might be, even though you think I might already have it, just….

[Jason Ibarra] 20:22:45

Take a copy, you know, send me a Word document or a PDF.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:22:49

And just highlight it. I know, Raina, you just put one in the, uh….

[Jason Ibarra] 20:22:54

In the Zoom chat, do… just… everybody… everybody look at Rena's document, and just do something like that, and send it to me. I'll consolidate it all.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:22:55

Yes.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:23:01

And, um, you know, because most of it I have, but….

[Jason Ibarra] 20:23:04

At the very end, when the final document's done, or the.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:23:08

Last revision, I'm gonna send it out. Have everybody stare at it, rip it apart.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:23:14

Do everything, and then go back to Chris again. So we're gonna rip this thing apart so bad, nobody can say.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:23:22

I have… I don't know what to do at this point, because literally, you're going to be able to pull a Word document out of it.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:23:27

You're gonna be able to pull a PDF. It's… everything's gonna be referenced to the T. Every, you know, every document's gonna be a Word template.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:23:35

I'll have Chris's version, and then it'll be a template version. All you have to do is go in and edit.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:23:40

Boom, then you just convert it to PDF. Put it in your package, and slot 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, blah blah blah.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:23:46

You know, um, I'll put…. Well, this is… this is just gonna make it easy for everybody.

[iPhone] 20:23:48

Yeah, let's not overthink it. No, no, I'm not disagreeing, I'm just saying, in general, just….

[iPhone] 20:23:56

Do it. Let's get it done.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:23:58

Yeah, so I just wanted to put that out. Everybody that wants to… because….

[Jason Ibarra] 20:24:02

Right now, it's just fine-tuning some stuff, so everybody…. If you have any questions for yourself, just send it. It'll help… it'll help the process.

[Shartina Curry] 20:24:12

Thank you

[Jason Ibarra] 20:24:14

Yeah, sure, whoever, whoever's that, whatever.

[iPhone] 20:24:14

Okay, I, I, I, I authentically. Want every one of you.

[iPhone] 20:24:20

I'm not saying… I don't… I don't have, like, first-hand personal knowledge that.

[iPhone] 20:24:24

If you don't have your credentials, that you can't do this, or you can't do that.

[iPhone] 20:24:28

In the scope of the foundation all across the board. But what I will say is that we have a lot of people that are getting arrested, and a lot of people that are doing things.

[iPhone] 20:24:40

And they're doing it because they believe and they have faith in what they're doing, and they're most likely probably are right.

[iPhone] 20:24:46

But that doesn't mean that in the public, the…. The, uh, the monkeys that are out there, the flying monkeys from The Witch, Wicked Witch of the West.

[iPhone] 20:24:56

Uh, are not, uh, you know, the smartest. And they have guns.

[iPhone] 20:25:03

So, before you go out there and you make a stand, you probably want to make sure.

[iPhone] 20:25:10

That, you know, you have some sort of repellent. So that you can….

[iPhone] 20:25:17

Have the knowledge. To be fearless.

[iPhone] 20:25:27

And you want to make sure that. Uh, they come out unscathed.

[iPhone] 20:25:34

I mean, you guys know I've been through a lot. I mean, I've shared a lot of the stuff. I was held for an hour and a half. I mean, they were gonna….

[iPhone] 20:25:40

They put something in front of my tires, and, you know.

[iPhone] 20:25:44

Uh, and I had to stand my ground. Uh, and I… I didn't have a registration, and I didn't have, um….

[iPhone] 20:25:52

A driver's license, and I didn't have insurance. I didn't have plate, you know, all the….

[iPhone] 20:25:57

The things that they want to hit you for. And I beat him 5 times.

[iPhone] 20:26:04

I've showed you that. I've showed… I put it out there many, many times.

[iPhone] 20:26:09

And, you know, I'm not gonna be, like, I… I…. I'm not showing you because I'm bragging about it, I'm showing you because if it's working for me.

[iPhone] 20:26:19

Then it will work for you, but…. You can't do it unless, at least in my, uh….

[iPhone] 20:26:26

And this, my opinion, is that, um…. You gotta have your credentials.

[iPhone] 20:26:31

I mean, it's just so repetitive, like, you know, the Gestapo, you'd have your papers in order.

[iPhone] 20:26:37

They didn't even ask for your papers, they want to ask.

[iPhone] 20:26:40

Are your papers in order? And if you… and it's the same thing out here, so….

[iPhone] 20:26:45

Um. You know, let's just get it done right, and then we'll keep going. The group is….

[iPhone] 20:26:51

The group is still growing. The group…. This group is going to be, um….

[iPhone] 20:26:58

This group is going to be in at some point. So on fire, and….

[iPhone] 20:27:05

And that people are going to be coming to us, like the halls of justice.

[iPhone] 20:27:08

Not because they're coming to me, but they're coming to all of us.

[iPhone] 20:27:14

And we're the new super friends. Because we're… we're one collective soul, one unit, and….

[iPhone] 20:27:23

But we have to grow together. And we have to respect.

[iPhone] 20:27:29

Uh… you know, where I'm going with this. Because if you guys want somebody else, and you want to go….

[iPhone] 20:27:35

You know, and you want to hear somebody else talk, I mean, it's a free country.

[iPhone] 20:27:39

There's a lot of great gurus out there. And they're charging, you know, just, you know, a little bit, you know?

[iPhone] 20:27:47

Uh, you can get a… you can get a taco meal.

[iPhone] 20:27:50

And they'll only charge you $2.50, and then…. And then, of course, you can get the burrito meal with the tacos, and that's another thousand, and then if you want the big enchilada.

[iPhone] 20:27:59

Hey, it's $2,500. And then, you know, keep growing. If that's what you want!

[iPhone] 20:28:04

And you want little sprinkles of meals. And they never stop.

[iPhone] 20:28:10

They go. Do it. But if you….

[Jason Ibarra] 20:28:13

Chris, on your credentials. Oh, I just wanted to ask you real quick, because, um, you kept talking about the credentials, and….

[iPhone] 20:28:15

Hmm.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:28:21

Uh, you sent out that list today, which I'm assuming was strategic, and from a timing perspective, because of all these people's, um, issues.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:28:28

I just scrolled through it real quick to see if anything popped out of my head, and then I saw that psychological board.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:28:35

So I made a comment real quick in the chat, just for future and past reference, and present reference.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:28:41

Um, but can you just speak to that real quick about….

[Jason Ibarra] 20:28:45

I mean, how do you know that when you mailed out those credentials to the psychology board, and how does that tie into.

[iPhone] 20:28:52

Um, because I emailed it, and I faxed it, and I get a transmission and a transaction code.

[iPhone] 20:28:58

And that's money. Transmission, transaction. I know they received it.

[iPhone] 20:29:03

And they continue to spam them out every month on….

[Jason Ibarra] 20:29:07

Because I found that interesting, because one of the things I found.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:29:12

The… one of the things they try to do, um, of course, they attack the sovereign.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:29:17

The sovereign citizen movement, and they talk about, you know, people are mentally deranged, and….

[iPhone] 20:29:22

I don't care. I can't hear him. I can't hear them.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:29:22

You know, because they're not following the norms of society.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:29:27

But….

[iPhone] 20:29:30

I can't hear him. And if they'd try to talk to me, I'd just tell them you're fired.

[iPhone] 20:29:36

I can't hear you. If I don't answer my phone unless I know who it is.

[iPhone] 20:29:42

See, as soon as they hear your voice, they want to contract it.

[iPhone] 20:29:45

You're fired. Hello? You're fired. Hello? You're fired.

[iPhone] 20:29:53

Why do I… why do I want to hear anything that….

[iPhone] 20:29:57

That means nothing to me. My conversations are private, they're special.

[iPhone] 20:30:03

Special notice. Why is it Special Ed?

[iPhone] 20:30:08

Because people that are special education. Are not from this world.

[iPhone] 20:30:14

They're mine. They're mente. They're government….

[iPhone] 20:30:21

Is not from here. I am not from this world.

[iPhone] 20:30:28

Neither are you. Everything out here is dead!

[iPhone] 20:30:33

You actually think you're seeing all this shit, but you're not.

[iPhone] 20:30:36

Your eyes are lying to you. Your ears are lying to you.

[iPhone] 20:30:40

Go look at the science! All you're hearing is my frequency of my voice.

[iPhone] 20:30:44

Do you think you hear word? That's a program. I don't want to go into that, because, you know, who cares?

[iPhone] 20:30:50

At the end of the day. You know, the kabuki guy's talking about all the crap that.

[iPhone] 20:30:55

You know, everybody loves, like, you know, little. Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, you know, potato chips.

[iPhone] 20:31:00

I'm not here to teach that. I'm just here to help….

[iPhone] 20:31:06

Lead you into the right direction by example. Not here to save the damn world, just here….

[iPhone] 20:31:12

Because all of you had issues, you wanted. You know, some of you couldn't, you know, afford this, and couldn't afford that.

[iPhone] 20:31:19

And so I made it very simple. Made it very easy, but then it grew into something else, and that means my time.

[iPhone] 20:31:26

My life…. I give up everything.

[Jason Ibarra] 20:31:28

But that psychology board's…. Although psychology boards are connected to the courts.

[iPhone] 20:31:34

They're all connected to everything. When you go inside there. That's where they go and they say, oh, he's crazy, we need to do a ruling on this, okay, let's put him inside or… oh!

[iPhone] 20:31:43

Uh-oh. Uh, his credentials are here.

[iPhone] 20:31:50

You gotta get your credentials out to everybody. Everybody! And I just put that out there!

[iPhone] 20:31:57

I don't think you guys understood the, you know, when I said everybody, they were like.

[iPhone] 20:32:02

What the hell is this? If I could send it to Count Chocolat, I'll send it to Count Chocolat.

[iPhone] 20:32:08

Um, but…. And then you can see, I'll put the FOIAs out there.

[iPhone] 20:32:12

So you can see, too. Because, you know, everybody's like. Oh, he's just doing whatever, no, I'm not doing what everybody else is doing, but I'm honest enough to say that I got a lot of my shit from Divine, because Divine was a badass.

[iPhone] 20:32:25

And he didn't give a fuck about anything other than getting the damn people free.

[iPhone] 20:32:33

And everybody out there is just doing what he's doing, they're just dressing it up different.

[iPhone] 20:32:37

You know, Paul Michaels, hey! You know, Jeff Bezos, and Rockefeller, and you know, let's do this, you don't know, he loves them!

[iPhone] 20:32:49

And you can get her Maserati and a Lamborghini, and then he does the little hook, and then nobody knows anything at the end.

[iPhone] 20:32:56

So, get your credit. Pay your bills. Oh, we're back to the… the facto remedy shit. Oh, okay.

[iPhone] 20:33:03

You're feeding off of divine…. You know, I'd rather have somebody just….

[iPhone] 20:33:08

Just do their own shit, and then, you know, don't… don't try to….

[iPhone] 20:33:11

Hook somebody in. Um, you know, there's… in life, there's a lot of people that….

[iPhone] 20:33:20

They correlate with, you know, the meal of the day. 1099s, you know, that Kamari girl. Yeah, alright.

[iPhone] 20:33:28

She started off where? By herself, getting all that money. And then they took it, and she thought she was gonna get indicted, and all of a sudden she has a group.

[iPhone] 20:33:37

Never had any of these other people she was gonna share that information with.

[iPhone] 20:33:43

Well, let's go follow her! Is jump overboard over there!

[iPhone] 20:33:48

Let's use the 1099 and the cabs, yeah, we're gonna do it.

[iPhone] 20:33:51

And then they're gonna wonder, why is she indicted later? Because she was a trustee and a fiduciary, and she put the money into a public.

[iPhone] 20:34:01

Arena, and then she did not pay. The people that she had a fiduciary obligation to, whether that was her uppercase or whoever else was in that little group.

[iPhone] 20:34:11

And they came in there, they froze their assets, they waited 30 days.

[iPhone] 20:34:15

And they took her funds. Now, I don't know how much more than that, but… because I don't really care, I want to mind my own business, but I like to chew some bubblegum every once in a while.

[iPhone] 20:34:24

And I see what you did. And now she's got a following, and she's doing very well, because, you know, you….

[iPhone] 20:34:30

You got people getting donations inside there? I mean, she's got, I don't know, I don't know, 5, 6 thousand people now, 7,000, whatever it is.

[iPhone] 20:34:38

I don't care. That ain't me. I could just go out there tomorrow and show a couple of the things I've done.

[iPhone] 20:34:45

And have 4 million people. And I just charged $25.

[iPhone] 20:34:50

Or $50, or $100. If that's what I was about.

[iPhone] 20:34:55

But I have a conscience, conscience. Jurisprudence, science and law.

[iPhone] 20:35:03

Why would I want to go out there and just put shit out there so people can go out there.

[iPhone] 20:35:07

Grab the dynamite and the matches and put it out there, and then get….

[iPhone] 20:35:12

Um, injured.

[iPhone] 20:35:17

You have responsibility. It's like the old Spider-Man. What did you… the grandfather or the uncle said?

[iPhone] 20:35:24

With great power comes great responsibility, yeah, sure, yeah. Sure, it's true.

[iPhone] 20:35:30

So, I'm not… I'm not…. If anything, I do small e-books.

[iPhone] 20:35:36

But they're gonna be things that have actually worked. The things that I've… I've done.

[iPhone] 20:35:43

With responsibility. And we are trailblazers. There will never be another….

[iPhone] 20:35:49

For those of you who will last in this group. And are willing to take the journey like a marathon.

[iPhone] 20:35:58

You will. We will. We're gonna do some great shit.

[iPhone] 20:36:06

But don't… don't come at me like….

[iPhone] 20:36:12

You expect me to be David Copperfield? We'll get through the dark alley together.

[iPhone] 20:36:19

And I'll be there. But I'm not, um….

[iPhone] 20:36:24

You know, I'm not anything more than that. I'm not… you have to look at yourself in the mirror.

[Chris Nero] 20:36:30

I think Chartina had a question.

[iPhone] 20:36:33

Shortina? Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead.

[Shartina Curry] 20:36:33

Yes, please, yes. Um, just a quick question about the passport. So, this is pertaining to my own situation.

[Shartina Curry] 20:36:41

And to make a long story short, I won't explain why, but, um….

[Shartina Curry] 20:36:47

I have been married for, like, 11 years. It was a mistake in the past.

[Shartina Curry] 20:36:53

And I do not remember his name. His birthdate, his place of birth.

[Shartina Curry] 20:36:59

And all of those questions that they ask, because it was so long ago.

[Shartina Curry] 20:37:03

And it was very short. What should I do?

[iPhone] 20:37:05

So don't answer it. You don't really… you know, like Reagan.

[iPhone] 20:37:10

I don't recall. I don't recall. I would just put nothing there.

[Shartina Curry] 20:37:16

Okay, I was worried about them denying my application.

[iPhone] 20:37:19

No, they're gonna… they're gonna know if it's in the computer, they're gonna know, they're gonna say, is this not your, you know, is this not this? And then if they don't, then they're gonna just….

[iPhone] 20:37:26

Fly it through.

[Shartina Curry] 20:37:29

I was thinking they were gonna be like, how have you been married to somebody for 11 years and know nothing about them?

[iPhone] 20:37:33

No, but you're assuming. There's so many… don't be… there's no… there's no reason to fear anything.

[Shartina Curry] 20:37:36

Okay.

[iPhone] 20:37:43

We are… we are… we are…. The people.

[iPhone] 20:37:48

We're under Article 4. We created Article 1, Article 2, Article 3.

[iPhone] 20:37:53

Without Article 4, there is none of that. For those who are first will be last, and those who are last will be first.

[iPhone] 20:38:02

That would just happen to be us, that we're last, and we're really thrilled.

[iPhone] 20:38:06

We walk low and humble. We come out high and elevated in the sand.

[iPhone] 20:38:12

And if you don't know who you are, then you will never know who you are.

[iPhone] 20:38:16

The good book says that we're…. We are numbered like sands of the ocean.

[iPhone] 20:38:22

To be magnified by kings and queens. Four corners.

[iPhone] 20:38:29

And we are magnified, and we probably are, like, really small grains, like the Smurps.

[iPhone] 20:38:35

We're just magnified. By the sun.

[iPhone] 20:38:39

And… we have to be…. No, we bake it till you make it if you have to.

[iPhone] 20:38:47

I mean, I'm just saying, I mean. I've done some pretty bold things in my time, and I've done it, you know, at times when I think.

[Shartina Curry] 20:38:47

I know I say that all the time.

[iPhone] 20:38:57

You know, there's a spirit of fire that comes out of your mouth. I told the judge, I said.

[iPhone] 20:39:02

I'm coming back. To indict you.

[iPhone] 20:39:07

And then I saw the sheriff's when I left. You know, but I said what I had to say.

[iPhone] 20:39:12

And I mean it. And I'm still coming back to indict her.

[iPhone] 20:39:16

She knows it. Big development in that case.

[iPhone] 20:39:21

Today, they were supposed to move forward. One of my, uh, you know, Jason.

[iPhone] 20:39:27

The Arizona one. They've postponed it again.

[iPhone] 20:39:32

That's because it's a United States District Court. And I got the medical records.

[iPhone] 20:39:37

It's over. So, look, folks.

[iPhone] 20:39:42

I'm in it. For the duration. If you're with me, you're with me, and I'm with you.

[iPhone] 20:39:51

And if you're not with me, then…. You know?

[iPhone] 20:39:56

Then you guys need to, you know. Figure a way….

[iPhone] 20:40:00

Because I don't hold anything personal. Because, you see, I'm… I'm here.

[iPhone] 20:40:07

But I didn't… I didn't… I didn't, you know, think I was going to sign up for this, but I'm here, and I'm….

[iPhone] 20:40:12

If you're not here, you're not here. And… and…. You guys gotta go help yourselves.

[iPhone] 20:40:17

This is a collective group. If you guys think you know what you know, and it's everything, then, you know.

[iPhone] 20:40:26

You're gonna go do it. How's that working out for you guys out there?

[iPhone] 20:40:31

For those of you who think you know what you're doing.

[iPhone] 20:40:33

That's not working. Ask yourself that. How's it working out?

[iPhone] 20:40:39

Are you getting results? Is that everything you wanted? Because of your guessing?

[iPhone] 20:40:45

And you're just throwing things out there because you heard somebody else to work for.

[iPhone] 20:40:51

How's that working out for you? Get your remedies?

[iPhone] 20:40:58

You know, you get what you get. So, uh, anybody have any questions? Uh, because the next meeting we have.

[iPhone] 20:41:06

Uh, next week, I hope that at least 90% of you people are ready to.

[iPhone] 20:41:09

Launch your stuff out and get it out, because. You know, I need a little help out here.

[iPhone] 20:41:16

Any questions? Anybody? Jason?

[Alyssa] 20:41:20

I was wondering if my…. Revocable trust can be used for, like, my day-to-day transactions, you know, like depositing my work check in.

[iPhone] 20:41:31

Well, your revocable trust, if you want to make a revocable trust, should be at your bank, at non-interest bearing. You should be able to operate, that's your vehicle. The vehicle is….

[iPhone] 20:41:41

Uh, you're like a… you're… you're… think about the trust like a dog.

[iPhone] 20:41:46

And… you're like a little…. You know, look at us like, uh, like a tick.

[iPhone] 20:41:54

And everywhere we ride that dog. That dog takes us everywhere, but we're not the dog.

[iPhone] 20:42:00

Because that's what they do to us. But the only thing that's good is that.

[iPhone] 20:42:05

As the tick on that dog, that dog belongs to us, and that blood belongs to it.

[iPhone] 20:42:13

And that's the opposite of what they're doing to us. But they're vampires.

[iPhone] 20:42:21

Any other questions?

[iPhone] 20:42:29

Okay? Uh…. Yes.

[john jack] 20:42:31

Excuse me, Mr. Chris. On the list, uh.

[john jack] 20:42:35

He stated number 9 as the commercial lien, and there was another word or two that was in….

[iPhone] 20:42:43

We're gonna put it out. We're gonna put that out. We're gonna put that… we're gonna put that out.

[john jack] 20:42:45

Okay. Awesome. Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chris, young lady.

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:42:47

That was a Fidelio obligation.

[iPhone] 20:42:52

But, yeah, you're welcome. We're gonna put it… we're gonna put all that out there. That's… that's coming to a theater near you real soon.

[john jack] 20:42:59

Yeah, well, I'm looking forward. I got the popcorn ready.

[iPhone] 20:43:01

All right, good. Look, I just… I hope that you'll under….

[iPhone] 20:43:06

And, I mean, well, as they say, comprehend.

[iPhone] 20:43:12

Uh, don't get me confused. With being a mentor.

[iPhone] 20:43:18

Um, I'm not asking you…. To walk behind me.

[iPhone] 20:43:24

And I'm not walking in front of you. We're like those epic movies where, you know, like the Baywatch, where they're all walking together.

[iPhone] 20:43:33

Side by side. See, that's… that's… that's what it has to be.

[john jack] 20:43:35

Yes, sir, and, uh, and…. Yes, sir. And as we attempt to do as what you say, our own thing.

[john jack] 20:43:44

We don't want to, at least I don't, but others don't want you to….

[john jack] 20:43:50

I think that we are not. Per se, following you.

[john jack] 20:43:54

Because we are that…. Uh, we are those standing side by side, walking.

[john jack] 20:44:00

Uh, and so… but we're gonna get it all worked out.

[john jack] 20:44:04

I firmly believe in.

[iPhone] 20:44:04

No, and I appreciate that, but, you know, here at the end of the day, guys, you….

[iPhone] 20:44:08

I'm… I told you folks, I'm always there watching. But I let, you know….

[iPhone] 20:44:14

I'm just watching. This is…. If I have something to say, I say it, but I'm not… I'm not a dictator, I'm not coming in here telling you, hey, don't talk to me, eh, don't do that.

[iPhone] 20:44:25

Hey! You guys do what you gotta do, it's just… that's what this whole….

[iPhone] 20:44:30

Group is about. There's a lot of things. That I… if I… if I… if I'm gonna be honest, like I always am, there's probably some shit on here that I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ.

[iPhone] 20:44:39

And then I want to jump in. I'm like, no, let it happen.

[iPhone] 20:44:43

Um…. Because it's your group.

[iPhone] 20:44:48

And I'm not…. A dictator. I'm not a master.

[iPhone] 20:44:54

I'm still out here trailblazing. So that I can bring it to you.

[iPhone] 20:44:59

Out of the boldness and the fire that I have. Been around a long time, folks.

[iPhone] 20:45:07

I'm not just some spring chicken that just came in here because I read something and I've been listening to Divine.

[iPhone] 20:45:13

And all that. Been around a lot. But I only live in the now.

[iPhone] 20:45:19

I mean, I got 7 kids, I got…. 6 grandkids.

[iPhone] 20:45:24

I got a 43-year-old son…. I could go on and on, a 42-year-old daughter, 41, I'm, you know….

[iPhone] 20:45:32

But…. I'm gonna be here a while, because it's… it's….

[iPhone] 20:45:37

It's ordained. Because I believe….

[iPhone] 20:45:42

Um, that my calling is what it is. I'm grateful. Grateful for all of you. Grateful.

[iPhone] 20:45:48

For everything that's brought to me. And I'm grateful that I have… I can have answers, and there's a lot of times when I'm like, oh, I'm like.

[iPhone] 20:45:57

I gotta put the formula together.

[iPhone] 20:46:02

And the formula is never the same. I know it looks the same.

[iPhone] 20:46:07

But it's all different. And I don't… I don't… I don't take that lightly. I don't… I don't… I don't just, you know.

[iPhone] 20:46:15

Get a cookie cutter out. All right, Daniela, Jammy John, Ibara, Jack.

[iPhone] 20:46:20

Uh, you know, I'm not doing that. That would be, uh….

[iPhone] 20:46:25

Careless. And I don't appreciate it. I wouldn't do it for myself.

[iPhone] 20:46:35

So, I hope…. That we can….

[iPhone] 20:46:40

Respect each other, and that. There's value.

[iPhone] 20:46:45

If there's value. From me to you.

[iPhone] 20:46:49

I'll tell you, there's value from you guys, too. Because I learn more from actual events.

[iPhone] 20:46:58

Because I think that… I don't know any of other… I don't know any other guy… I don't know any other guy out there that's in….

[iPhone] 20:47:03

Court as much as I am. We're willing to go to court, were willing to fight.

[iPhone] 20:47:08

I don't know. You tell me, because I don't see it.

[iPhone] 20:47:12

I just don't. I'm looking around. Besides, you know, uh, Brandon Williams, who's not really in there, he hired an attorney, so he….

[iPhone] 20:47:20

He's… I told… you're gonna lose every case, man. It's in a trust. You finally cut the vision, now he used to.

[iPhone] 20:47:26

But, you know, he's got so many followers now, and he's got merch, as he calls it, merch.

[iPhone] 20:47:31

I mean, gee, you know, after you make so much money, who cares if you get remedy?

[iPhone] 20:47:38

Let me throw some merch at… let me throw some merch out there, let me throw some….

[iPhone] 20:47:43

Nero pens, or neuro, you know. Whatever, uh….

[iPhone] 20:47:47

But I don't really care, you know, honestly. I'm just a different breed, so… Um, alright, so, uh, next week, we're gonna have another meeting Monday, and uh, I know a lot of you out there have had private conversations, and I know I'm working on your cases.

[iPhone] 20:48:04

As usual.

[iPhone] 20:48:09

And I appreciate all of you. I do. I want you to know that, I….

[iPhone] 20:48:15

Every one of you individually. That I have conversations with.

[iPhone] 20:48:20

Um, you get what you get from me. It's real. Sometimes I'm in a better mood, and sometimes I'm in an edgy mood, and there's some times where I'm patient, and there's some times where I'm impatient.

[iPhone] 20:48:32

But I'm there, so you gotta take me, you know, as I am. And, you know.

[iPhone] 20:48:38

Every one of you know that. Every one of you know that, so….

[iPhone] 20:48:44

I'm getting a lot of white hair on my face here.

[iPhone] 20:48:48

Um, thinking about, you know, my girl with a white beard, you know, who knows, maybe I'll….

[iPhone] 20:48:51

Started looking a little bit more like an elder or something.

[iPhone] 20:48:54

But for now, I'm… I'm just, uh…. Just being who I am, Joanne stuff.

[iPhone] 20:49:00

All right, guys, uh, we'll talk soon. Um, Jason will be putting that out there, Ibarra.

[iPhone] 20:49:07

Uh, and then you guys need to follow through. Follow through. Not for me, for you.

[iPhone] 20:49:12

I'm not gonna be the guy that's, like, a professor pushing you.

[iPhone] 20:49:16

You gotta… I would love everybody… can you imagine how strong we're gonna be just in closing?

[iPhone] 20:49:22

How strong we're gonna be. When we are doing, you know, little things, and we're all, you know, at that point, and I can go, do the 1098, go to court.

[iPhone] 20:49:31

You're gonna do this, we're gonna do that, we're gonna always get a FOIA out, you know, it's gonna be a great network, and I have vision. I'm already in the future, by the way.

[iPhone] 20:49:39

And I'd see all of you. For those who are still B.

[iPhone] 20:49:44

Uh, in the group. I pray and hope.

[iPhone] 20:49:48

That everybody sticks together. And weathers the storms.

[iPhone] 20:49:53

That we're all in. And….

[iPhone] 20:49:57

That with this group will be the greatest group. That one day in the future, they will talk about it.

[iPhone] 20:50:04

That collective soul thing. I mean, there was….

[iPhone] 20:50:11

That's what we're gonna… that's what we are. All right, guys.

[iPhone] 20:50:18

Any… if there's any questions before I leave? One more, anything? No?

[iPhone] 20:50:21

Good. All right, guys. Take care.

[Shartina Curry] 20:50:28

Alright, bye, thanks

[Reina Martha Cornelio Martinez] 20:50:29

Thank you, Chris.

[iPhone] 20:50:30

Bye-bye. You bet. Bye-bye.